Sizing Shoulder Issues

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Sizing Shoulder Issues

Post by tapiajl » 28 Jul 2018, 17:41

Hi all, I’m new to reloading the 5.7x28 round. I’ve been reloading a few other calibers for a few years. I got the Lee reloading dies kit, but when I try resizing the cases, the shoulder doesn’t go all the way down to where it is on factory ammo. The shoulder is about .01 inch above the factory ammo shoulder. Is it safe to reload the cases like this?

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Re: Sizing Shoulder Issues

Post by Buffman » 29 Jul 2018, 06:14

Got pictures? Do you have EA's case gage? I believe that's normal from another picture I've seen of people using 1x brass.

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Re: Sizing Shoulder Issues

Post by tapiajl » 29 Jul 2018, 06:45

Yes, I got pictures but I don’t know how to post them here. I’m using my cell phone. Can it be done from a cell phone?
I just ordered the EA cage gauge yesterday.

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Re: Sizing Shoulder Issues

Post by Rapier1772 » 29 Jul 2018, 08:26

Instructions on how to post pics: https://www.fivesevenforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6363
Cell phones have to go through the same steps, it's just easier on a computer.
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Re: Sizing Shoulder Issues

Post by tapiajl » 29 Jul 2018, 14:27

Here is picture of a factory round and a resized shell. Hopefully you guys can see it. I also noticed that the factory round has an angled shoulder and the shoulder on the resized shell is sort of round.

https://imgur.com/gallery/1bLGOqX

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Re: Sizing Shoulder Issues

Post by panzermk2 » 30 Jul 2018, 06:37

Does NOT look right.

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Re: Sizing Shoulder Issues

Post by tapiajl » 30 Jul 2018, 09:21

panzermk2 wrote:
30 Jul 2018, 06:37
Does look right.

Thank you. I will try a few rounds like that to see how they work. Hopefully I’ll get the EA gauge soon.

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Post by panzermk2 » 30 Jul 2018, 10:15

tapiajl wrote:
30 Jul 2018, 09:21
panzermk2 wrote:
30 Jul 2018, 06:37
Does look right.

Thank you. I will try a few rounds like that to see how they work. Hopefully I’ll get the EA gauge soon.

Crap I meant NOT it does NOT look right. The shoulder does not look like it has been set back far enough.
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Post by panzermk2 » 30 Jul 2018, 10:15

Shoulder angle notwithstanding the set back looks wrong.
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Re: Sizing Shoulder Issues

Post by tapiajl » 30 Jul 2018, 10:46

panzermk2 wrote:
30 Jul 2018, 10:15
Shoulder angle notwithstanding the set back looks wrong.
Does this mean that the resizing die is not working as it supposed to? Should I get a different die? If so, any recommendations?
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Post by panzermk2 » 30 Jul 2018, 11:20

have you seen this video I created about hand loading the 5.7?
https://youtu.be/tWMmngceDiY
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Post by panzermk2 » 30 Jul 2018, 11:22

It could be that the die is not adjusted all the way down, but it might be the die. There is a thread in this section about the Lee dies. I used to recommend them but a few years back they changed thier sizing die specs and have had issues ever since.
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Post by tapiajl » 30 Jul 2018, 12:50

Hi Jay, that was one of the first videos a watched. I just watched it again right now. It contains a lot of good info. I was reading on at other tread that a way was having the same issue and he fixed it by reducing the size of the die just a little. I don’t think I want to try this. I’d rather return it and by a new die set. Are you guys still making the CH4D die set? I need one of those.

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Post by panzermk2 » 31 Jul 2018, 09:48

Yes we are. Infact we have one full set in stock right now. We package ours this way,
CH4D Sizer die
CH4D Seating die
CH4D Crimping die
Single case holder
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Re: Sizing Shoulder Issues

Post by tapiajl » 31 Jul 2018, 13:23

panzermk2 wrote:
31 Jul 2018, 09:48
Yes we are. Infact we have one full set in stock right now. We package ours this way,
CH4D Sizer die
CH4D Seating die
CH4D Crimping die
Single case holder
I was gonna order a set yesterday, but the website says they are on backorder.

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Re: Sizing Shoulder Issues

Post by Buffman » 31 Jul 2018, 19:21

Wonder what dies Triple R uses (see subsonic far right)
https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=5BD32F72

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Post by Rapier1772 » 01 Aug 2018, 00:34

Buffman wrote:
31 Jul 2018, 19:21
Wonder what dies Triple R uses (see subsonic far right)
https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=5BD32F72
It looks like that case is a little longer than the others which may be crushing the shoulder down & deforming it a little, but the case end looks fine so I don't think that's it. Probably bad dies.
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Post by panzermk2 » 01 Aug 2018, 10:44

tapiajl wrote:
31 Jul 2018, 13:23
panzermk2 wrote:
31 Jul 2018, 09:48
Yes we are. Infact we have one full set in stock right now. We package ours this way,
CH4D Sizer die
CH4D Seating die
CH4D Crimping die
Single case holder
I was gonna order a set yesterday, but the website says they are on backorder.
That is the default since it takes so long to get them. That said we have as of right now one set in stock on the shelf. FYI it can take 6 months or more to get them from CH4D.
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Buffman wrote:
31 Jul 2018, 19:21
Wonder what dies Triple R uses (see subsonic far right)
https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=5BD32F72

One of thier cases split correct?
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Re: Sizing Shoulder Issues

Post by Buffman » 01 Aug 2018, 13:37

one of theirs had a slight crack in the neck yes.

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