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Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 06:16
by MikeSantor
Damn, sounds like there was some interesting stuff floating around before my time...

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 07:27
by jgreenberg01
MikeSantor wrote:Damn, sounds like there was some interesting stuff floating around before my time...
I didn't start the thread, but here is where it began:
http://fnforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=10914" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 04 Dec 2011, 21:24
by 32blownhemi
Ah ha, so that's it! Well, I asked my GF & she said "NO"... BUT, I bought her a bottle of Vodka for Christmas, so we'll see! ;)

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 05 Dec 2011, 10:01
by 32blownhemi
Ok, naked pic's are on the way ;) Incredible difference! He sent his in on Oct. 17Th & already got it back! ;)... I sent mine in on Sept. 29th & still haven't :(... Ya just got a love these forums with all the available info! ;)

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 05 Dec 2011, 10:43
by 32blownhemi
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b45_1175522482[/liveleak]

Here ya go... Enjoy!!! ;) http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b45_1175522482" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 05 Dec 2011, 20:13
by blueorison
Hemi,

remember that not all FsN's are created equal. Mine took much more work than the majority of the others, here.

Patience wins every time. :)

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 06 Dec 2011, 12:14
by 32blownhemi
blueorison wrote:Hemi,

remember that not all FsN's are created equal. Mine took much more work than the majority of the others, here.

Patience wins every time. :)
Thank you blueorison... Yeah, I remember when I used to be a shop welder & some customers would watch & keep saying; "Aren't you done yet, aren't you done yet", on & on. Finally I'd get tired of hearing it so I'd just say; "Yep, it's done". They'd look at their 'job' & say; "it doesn't look done". And I'd say; "Then why'd you ask?"...

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 06 Dec 2011, 17:29
by Buffman
Got mine back today. My only complaint so far seems to be that the mags don't eject very well at all now that the disconnect is gone. Has anyone or EA modified the mag disconnect to just be long enough to put pressure on the magazine, but not interfere with the trigger bar? Otherwise really impressed. I can spot the polished and lapped parts, and the trigger lost at least 2lbs :)

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 06 Dec 2011, 19:14
by jgreenberg01
My mags still eject forcefully, I see no difference in that sense.

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 06 Dec 2011, 20:28
by Rapier1772
Mine aren't as forceful as they were unless there is still a round or two in the mag. However, I've never had a problem dropping the mag - empty or loaded.

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 06 Dec 2011, 21:36
by Buffman
Could be just my gun, but I recall it being able originally to drop the promag(30rder)I have on slide lock. Now it doesn't seem to want to. I have one factory 20rounder, that If I slam home, it seems to go alittle above where it needs to be, and the mag lock engages, but doesn't click, and the mag sits there from tension on the release.. I inspected my release and it didn't look that worn.

Other than that, I can't wait to fire it hopefully tomorrow.

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 06 Dec 2011, 21:49
by panzermk2
Buffman wrote:Got mine back today. My only complaint so far seems to be that the mags don't eject very well at all now that the disconnect is gone. Has anyone or EA modified the mag disconnect to just be long enough to put pressure on the magazine, but not interfere with the trigger bar? Otherwise really impressed. I can spot the polished and lapped parts, and the trigger lost at least 2lbs :)

Some do some don't. It comes down to a mass produced frame. Send me all your mags and I will work them over.

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 07 Dec 2011, 02:20
by blueorison
Buffman wrote:Could be just my gun, but I recall it being able originally to drop the promag(30rder)I have on slide lock. Now it doesn't seem to want to. I have one factory 20rounder, that If I slam home, it seems to go alittle above where it needs to be, and the mag lock engages, but doesn't click, and the mag sits there from tension on the release.. I inspected my release and it didn't look that worn.

Other than that, I can't wait to fire it hopefully tomorrow.
Hey Buffman, from what you are saying, it makes it sound like the 20-rounder overshoots the catch? How is it possible if it goes above where it needs to be and not "click" on the mag release? Could you explain more? Thanks.

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 07 Dec 2011, 04:27
by Buffman
blueorison wrote:
Buffman wrote:Could be just my gun, but I recall it being able originally to drop the promag(30rder)I have on slide lock. Now it doesn't seem to want to. I have one factory 20rounder, that If I slam home, it seems to go alittle above where it needs to be, and the mag lock engages, but doesn't click, and the mag sits there from tension on the release.. I inspected my release and it didn't look that worn.

Other than that, I can't wait to fire it hopefully tomorrow.
Hey Buffman, from what you are saying, it makes it sound like the 20-rounder overshoots the catch? How is it possible if it goes above where it needs to be and not "click" on the mag release? Could you explain more? Thanks.
That's what it seems like it's doing. If I get time tonight, I'll take a video. There is some up and down movement of the magazines (evident by the slight gap between the grip and magazine), and this particular one can be pushed up higher on slide lock, and there's no lockin of the mag release, but the mag just sits there .

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 07 Dec 2011, 05:37
by blueorison
That means the mag catch is not catching at all on the mag as it goes up, and the mag overshoots it. That is very odd.

Because I don't remember that EA modifies anything on the magazine release...

I'm sure the issue will be worked out, seems really simple. Can you confirm that the mag indent on your magazine is the same for the rest of the mags that work properly?

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 07 Dec 2011, 09:36
by Buffman
I'll look tonight.

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 07 Dec 2011, 11:55
by panzermk2
If you have a polymer release it might be showing some wear.

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 08 Dec 2011, 20:13
by Buffman

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 08 Dec 2011, 21:57
by blueorison
Buffman, I couldn't really tell which ones were the problem magazines.

They all seemed to drop free besides the Promag (I don't like anything Promag, sidenote).

Can you just do a video with the problem mags and do a close-up showing which ones have their indents on the magazines slide up past the mag catch without catching?

And which ones aren't drop free?

Sorry for the trouble I saw you use many mags really quickly and didn't get a solid picture.

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 08 Dec 2011, 22:07
by Buffman
Yeah sorry. Camerawoman was being impatient. Originally I only noticed the first one I show in the video to go up past what it felt like it should. I had another at the range do the same thing when I shot Pro IIs. It didn't lock the slide back, and then it didn't drop free. I stopped using that one yesterday, and then put 150 rounds through it. When I got home the one with the Pro II's still didn't drop free, but the one with the S4 now does.

I mainly was just wondering if those internal mold lines should be that pronounced.

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 18 Dec 2011, 22:00
by Buffman
For anyone that has the time, can you check your FSN and tell me if you have these visible mold lines on the inside of the magwell?

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Could those be aiding in the cause of the drop free issue? I also noticed that Protector II no longer locks the slide back on last round, with a few mags I've tried...

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 18 Dec 2011, 22:41
by panzermk2
There should be no issue locking back the slide.

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 18 Dec 2011, 22:57
by blueorison
Matt;

FsN's have those horizontal mold lines that go across the section of the inner magwell. They have nothing to do with the mags not dropping free. You can easily sand them out, also.

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 19 Dec 2011, 09:32
by Buffman
panzermk2 wrote:There should be no issue locking back the slide.
I'm quite perplexed at why the Pro II isn't locking the slide back also. I've shot the Var II round which is one of the slowest rounds EA has to offer. It had no problem locking the slide back. The same with 197, 195, 198, Pro, S4. Just the two times I've shot Pro II, it fails to lock the slide back on the last round. I know the Pro IIs are the highest recoiling rounds I've ever shot through the gun, just trying to find out a reason why..

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 19 Dec 2011, 10:23
by JVRx7
Is it possible that, due to the heavy recoil of the Pro II, that the slide is rebounding faster than the lock is coming up under spring pressure?

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 19 Dec 2011, 10:55
by Buffman
Could be. I'll throw an EA extra power mag spring in a magazine today and test.

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 19 Dec 2011, 11:04
by JVRx7
Did you install or have EA install the heavy recoil spring?

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 19 Dec 2011, 11:47
by panzermk2
I have had no issues with ProII locking slides back. Your gun along with most we have worked on lately have been tested with it before being shipped back. Something else is going on under recoil.

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 19 Dec 2011, 16:59
by Buffman
I found the issue, I do believe. I'll post a video later. Really sad today. Somehow the screw broke that holds the rear adjustable sight down :( EA do you guys have spare parts for the adjustable sights?

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 18 Jan 2012, 20:56
by bnich82
sent an email on Jan 1st 2012 to be added to the accurizing list...should be picking up my firearm from the dealer next week, and hope to get the call up to the big leagues shortly there after...placed a pre-order for the new T6 ammo and looking to stock up on a few of your other offerings once I get a few other purchases out of the way and the new newsletter drops showing what you have in stock!

thanks for all you do EA!

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 02:31
by 32blownhemi
Hi Jay, I talked to you on Jan. 12th. r/e the status of my trigger job & night sights. You said the trigger job was done but not the night sights as you were waiting on the material. I'd like to get an up-date on this... Thanks, Bill Rogers

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 22:18
by panzermk2
32blownhemi wrote:Hi Jay, I talked to you on Jan. 12th. r/e the status of my trigger job & night sights. You said the trigger job was done but not the night sights as you were waiting on the material. I'd like to get an up-date on this... Thanks, Bill Rogers

Still the same. My supplier has had issues and has had a massive delay creating havoc here. I was promised I would see them this week.

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 23:00
by 32blownhemi
panzermk2 wrote:
32blownhemi wrote:Hi Jay, I talked to you on Jan. 12th. r/e the status of my trigger job & night sights. You said the trigger job was done but not the night sights as you were waiting on the material. I'd like to get an up-date on this... Thanks, Bill Rogers

Still the same. My supplier has had issues and has had a massive delay creating havoc here. I was promised I would see them this week.
Hi Jay, I just sent you an e-mail & then saw your reply here! If the material comes in this week, GREAT! I'd like them, but otherwise I'll just pass on the night sights. I miss my FN! :(... Thanks, Bill Rogers

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 23:47
by panzermk2
32blownhemi wrote:
panzermk2 wrote:
32blownhemi wrote:Hi Jay, I talked to you on Jan. 12th. r/e the status of my trigger job & night sights. You said the trigger job was done but not the night sights as you were waiting on the material. I'd like to get an up-date on this... Thanks, Bill Rogers

Still the same. My supplier has had issues and has had a massive delay creating havoc here. I was promised I would see them this week.
Hi Jay, I just sent you an e-mail & then saw your reply here! If the material comes in this week, GREAT! I'd like them, but otherwise I'll just pass on the night sights. I miss my FN! :(... Thanks, Bill Rogers

The problem is front blades have been drilled out all ready and rear blade's removed with empty holes waiting for tubes.

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 15:59
by 32blownhemi
Jay, well it seemed like a good idea at the time.... Ah, plan 'B' I'll post a WTB a slide in the sales section... Maybe someone who's getting one of your new slides wants to sell their old one? Or do the old sights transfer over to the new slide?? Or do you guys have one for sale? Then I can have you ship back the rest of the gun & I'll use a different slide until the night sights are done? Thanks, Bill

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 19:18
by panzermk2
32blownhemi wrote:Jay, well it seemed like a good idea at the time.... Ah, plan 'B' I'll post a WTB a slide in the sales section... Maybe someone who's getting one of your new slides wants to sell their old one? Or do the old sights transfer over to the new slide?? Or do you guys have one for sale? Then I can have you ship back the rest of the gun & I'll use a different slide until the night sights are done? Thanks, Bill


Friday A great big bag of stuff came in. At least 90% of all sights will go through assembly starting Monday. Slides will start shipping ASAP.

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 00:14
by 32blownhemi
Jay, I got your e-mail reply! Thanks & I'm looking forward to getting my 5.7 back complete with accurizing job & night sights! ;) Bill

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 26 Feb 2012, 21:58
by 32blownhemi
Hi Jay, Got my 5.7 back, thank you! ;)... But, something isn't right. #1) I haven't taken it to the range yet but when I rack the slide back & them let it go forward the trigger won't fire. #2) If I put the magazine in and then rack the slide back it won't go forward unless either one of two things; #1) there is a round it the mag. & then it loads the gun or #2) I drop the magazine, then the slide goes forward & the trigger pulls... What's going on??? Thanks, Bill

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 26 Feb 2012, 22:02
by panzermk2
32blownhemi wrote:Hi Jay, Got my 5.7 back, thank you! ;)... But, something isn't right. #1) I haven't taken it to the range yet but when I rack the slide back & them let it go forward the trigger won't fire. #2) If I put the magazine in and then rack the slide back it won't go forward unless either one of two things; #1) there is a round it the mag. & then it loads the gun or #2) I drop the magazine, then the slide goes forward & the trigger pulls... What's going on??? Thanks, Bill
Are you easing the slide forward or letting it slam? You should let it slam. I shot at least 50 rounds through it before cleaning it up and shipping it out.

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 26 Feb 2012, 23:35
by 32blownhemi
Jay, with NO magazine in the gun I pull the slide back, let it go & the slide goes all the way forward. But the gun won't dry fire. Is the magazine safety still hooked up? .... With a magazine in the gun {but no ammo in the magazine}, I pull the slide back & let it go, the slide goes forward 1/8" & then stops (I'm not easing it forward). So an empty magazine is keeping the slide from going forward. But, If I put ammo in the magazine, pull the slide back & let it go it chambers a round. I then pull the slide back, let it go & it ejects the un-shot round & chambers another round....

Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Posted: 01 Mar 2012, 18:53
by 32blownhemi
32blownhemi wrote:Jay, with NO magazine in the gun I pull the slide back, let it go & the slide goes all the way forward. But the gun won't dry fire. Is the magazine safety still hooked up? .... With a magazine in the gun {but no ammo in the magazine}, I pull the slide back & let it go, the slide goes forward 1/8" & then stops (I'm not easing it forward). So an empty magazine is keeping the slide from going forward. But, If I put ammo in the magazine, pull the slide back & let it go it chambers a round. I then pull the slide back, let it go & it ejects the un-shot round & chambers another round....
???