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Idaho: Guns on campus

Post by Rapier1772 » 14 Mar 2014, 10:17

Win for concealed carry in Idaho (sort of).
Recently a bill (SB 1254) has gone through the Idaho State Senate & House in record time (IMHO) which would allow certain people to carry concealed on college & university campuses. It passed by a pretty impressive margin considering a similar bill was shot down in 2011 and a lot of protests. Yesterday, the governor signed it into law which takes effect on July 1, 2014. Bear in mind it wasn't illegal to carry on campus before, just against policy; one could get kicked out or fired but not arrested.
Now, it allows LEO's, current & retired, to carry of course . But where a lot of people are ignorant is that Idaho has 2 kinds of permits, general & enhanced, people will need to have the Enhanced Permit in order to legally carry on campus. Both have the background check but Enhanced has more training & "prove you can shoot" provisions.
The bad part is that is allows for gun free zones to be posted at entertainment venues which can hold 1000+ people and dorms/residence halls are off limits. It also makes violating these rules illegal now so people can be arrested instead of told to leave.

It was, and still is, a charged subject on both sides.
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Re: Idaho: Guns on campus

Post by Rapier1772 » 24 Mar 2014, 10:06

I went to the class to get my Enhanced carry license this weekend & most of it was should be common sense on the laws. Unfortunately, I found out that my EA carry ammo (pre-atf stuff) is considered "excessive ammunition" & would be lumped into the same category as using a .500 magnum for self-defense. I am still going to be keeping it in a back up mag but I guess I will switch back to S4 or S4M for my primary mag.

The shooting portion was kinda lame until the final round when he said "load to capacity" :laugh: I was using my FsN & I fired all 20 rounds :guns: 5 targets - 1 close up, 1 between 2 innocents, 1 hostage, & a couple loners. Guess where he was standing? Right where about half my brass was landing :lmao:
Oops, sorry :monkey:
During the regular shooting portion I also skewered one guy in the neck with my brass.

I love using my FsN :laugh:
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Re: Idaho: Guns on campus

Post by jgreenberg01 » 24 Mar 2014, 10:21

Leave it to you gun nuts to hit people with hot brass.

Do I even need to mention the insanity of having "excessive ammunition"???

I'm just gobsmacked by you and your assault pistol....
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Re: Idaho: Guns on campus

Post by Oldbindlestiff » 24 Mar 2014, 11:18

I am of two minds about the enhanced carry requirements: 1. Why do we need permits at all? and 2. It would be good if you could actually hit what you aim at with the firearm that you carry.

The CCW course in TN requires that the applicant demonstrate basic proficiency with the handgun by firing thirty rounds or so at static targets at varying distance. At least four members of the class had never fired any kind of firearm before. Two passed the qualification; two did not. The examiner was quite good at coaching the newbies. (Which I am not certain that he is required to do.) He asked those who did not pass to return within thirty days and try again.

Of course, standing on this soapbox isn't getting any practice in, either! /exiting rant mode
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Re: Idaho: Guns on campus

Post by Rapier1772 » 24 Mar 2014, 14:07

I know what you mean...
On one hand, we should have the right to carry if we so choose, permit or not.
But on the other, I have seen people carrying concealed yet have no business handling a gun, they are completely untrained. The enhanced permit prevents that from happening.
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Re: Idaho: Guns on campus

Post by Oldbindlestiff » 24 Mar 2014, 17:30

Yep, I'm all for training. Of course, once started down that road, suddenly "requirements" may (will?) become so stringent that only a select few will qualify. :(
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