Gun Control Works...Very effectively.

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Re: Gun Control Works...Very effectively.

Post by jmz5 » 25 Nov 2008, 12:07

Yep. :laugh:
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Post by Iggimo2 » 25 Nov 2008, 16:41

COOL! :thumb:

Unfortunately, that's the type of thing that got us here in the first place. The original gun control stuff started because the coppers were outgunned buy the real original gangsters.

That and the noise...but I can see an illicit trade in components and reloading equipment. Great, more shtuff to buy before the end of January. :D

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Post by s-industries » 02 Dec 2008, 19:53

flyingirish04,
Good stuff,

BUT.....

Where did you get your info? I realize we won't hear these numbers on the news, but the gun haters we have to deal with will immediately question a statistic's validity. Therefore, I think you should be careful in posting stats that could possibly be a bit misleading. (A simple google search will show what I mean.)

I haven't read the Australian Bureau of Statistic's reports, but I would encourage you to do so when posting statistics that supposedly came from them.

For anyone with more time on their hands than I have, the reports can be found here:
http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/[email protected] ... &Num=5.2.2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I like what everyone is driving at here, but as intelligent gun owners, we need to be legitimate in our dealings with uninformed liberals. Otherwise, we won't be able to convince them of anything.

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Post by stg2ahn » 02 Dec 2008, 21:57

Sorry for being sarcastic, but uninformed liberals appear to want to stay that way.
DC's gun ban only increased crime, the same can be said for Chicago.
The AW ban's expiration didn't cause an armageddon.
They refuse to believe or acknowledge that guns can prevent crime or save lives.


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Post by DAUG » 03 Dec 2008, 00:03

stg2ahn wrote: ... If your uninformed liberal is an aquaintance, take him or her shooting a few times. I have converted gun scared liberals into gun owners.
I can attest to this too, since it's so true! :thumb:
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Post by Wollychop » 03 Dec 2008, 09:03

That's a great point.

When a buddy of mine got married his wife was of that mindset; no guns in the house, etc. She was scared of them, but she had also never been exposed to guns, much less responsible gun owners.

A gradual coversion is possible.

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Post by s-industries » 03 Dec 2008, 12:02

Right, I can (and have) convinced people that guns aren't bad or dangerous. Sometimes it's harder to convince them that they are necessary. What I was really driving at was that the statistics need to be handled correctly, or some people will dismiss them. The 300% higher homicide rate in Victoria was actually (from what I read) a 171.43% increase. 1996 showed 7 homicides and 1997 showed 19...out of 4.5 million people.

I agree and can attest to what everyone is saying, I'm just suggesting that we all be a little careful about throwing numbers around.

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Post by Gunslinger » 05 Dec 2008, 13:02

Do you thing Meredith would appreciate the initial information over on the Burress shooting encites anti-gun hysteria thread?

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Post by Rapier1772 » 05 Dec 2008, 15:24

Gunslinger wrote:Do you thing Meredith would appreciate the initial information over on the Burress shooting encites anti-gun hysteria thread?
No, I think she'd come up with an excuse to dismiss it - or just ignore it
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Post by s-industries » 05 Dec 2008, 21:17

I think you're right Rapier.

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Post by Cyberfly » 05 Dec 2008, 22:39

The thing about liberals is this, they absolutely refuse to allow facts to interfere with their feelings. Once you understand that, you'll have a better understanding of how to deal with them.
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Post by Rapier1772 » 25 Mar 2010, 01:00

A zombie pic for a thread from the dead :D (because I have nothing better to do at 3am w/insomnia :wall: )

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Post by Armed Eye Doc » 25 Mar 2010, 06:37

:lmao: :lmao:

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Post by ynoty3k » 25 Mar 2010, 06:38

Haha that's pretty good

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Post by blueorison » 25 Mar 2010, 11:14

HEY GAIZ

Pertinent current US information from this week:

Record numbers now licensed to pack heat
Firearms deaths fall as millions obtain permits to carry concealed guns

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34714389/ns/us_news-life/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by CenCalSplicer » 25 Mar 2010, 18:03

Since I am never home to watch TV my GF does it for me and she told me the other day that Fresno County Sherrif Margaret Mims was interviewed about issueing CCW's. She said that she issued 500 last year alone and believes that since the criminals are gonna conceal then the folk's she is sworn to protect should be able to also. Legally!!! My application is done and my interview is set for june. Hopefully by July I will have mine. At least we have one sherrif in PRK that supports her citizens.

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Post by f3rr37 » 25 Mar 2010, 18:05

That is great, hope it gets better for you all in the PRK.

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Post by CenCalSplicer » 25 Mar 2010, 18:08

Only if Boxer, Fienstien and Pelosi leave politics. Of course more of america wins too. I will keep my fingers crossed, thanks.

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Post by flyingirish04 » 26 Mar 2010, 08:01

The stats are accurate. Gun grabbers will try and spin the stats their way, but fact is gun control laws increase, so does crime. In a UNH comprehensive study on gun proliferation and crime, not a single case study showed that increase in gun liberties caused an increase in crime. Not a single one. Most in fact showed a decrease in crime, while a few only showed nominal changes not attributed to gun laws. However, when studying implementation of gun control measures, violent crime increased in all by two cases, both where gun freedoms were never culturally prevalent anyway, like in Japan.
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Post by Rapier1772 » 17 Oct 2011, 12:49

I was debating which gun control thread to put this in - I guess it doesn't really matter .
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crim ... t_17_.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Teen fatally shot in the East Village in city's 24 hour crime spree that left 17 shot, three stabbed
If anyone feels safe in that town, its probably because they're a criminal. Either by overt action or simply by owning/carrying when they aren't supposed to.
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