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The BEST .22 Rifle on the planet

Posted: 27 Sep 2011, 17:00
by FNForever
I have been shooting .22 rifles and pistols for nearly 20 years now (young by many standards) and have shot damn near everything I could get my hands on. From Walmart special 10/22's to Anschutz. I had never shot a CZ though. I have some experience with CZ75 and its many variants and can vouch that they are awesome 9mm handguns in every respect. Their rifles are even better. At least the 452 Ultra Lux that I aquired recently. This rifle is absolutely phenomenal and performs on par with rifles 3-4x more expensive. Many people downplay just how well made CZ products are. I had once recommended a CZ550 in .308 with a HSS Kevlar Stock for $700. My friend laughed at me and blew $2500 on some "tactical" nightmare. Its been 5 years since then...he sold his overpriced walking stick and owns a CZ now. Awesome company with some awesome products.

Re: The BEST .22 Rifle on the planet

Posted: 27 Sep 2011, 17:21
by jmz5
I own the best 22 rifles on the planet :D
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I have one more i built for my SWR spectre, but I don't have any photos yet.

22LR is by far my favorite caliber. Love shooting it. Might have to check out CZ's rimfires. :)

Re: The BEST .22 Rifle on the planet

Posted: 27 Sep 2011, 17:28
by flyingirish04
I have shot both (not exactly Justin's rifle, but one almost identical setup), and though the CZ is a great gun, those custom 10/22s would be my choice. But, you pay for those too.

CZ makes fine guns though, that is settled.

Re: The BEST .22 Rifle on the planet

Posted: 27 Sep 2011, 19:08
by blueorison
CZ's pistols are underrated and pretty unknown as they do not advertise much, much like FN in the past. They don't have "Fanboys", per se, vs. the fanatical following of Glock and H&K you commonly hear about and see.

However, their rifles and shotguns are way more sleeper-hits than their pistols. Their rimfires are ridiculous, as are their shotguns.

I, too, have fired pretty much every .22 out there. Pardinis, Benellis, and I had a whole armory of Anschultz match rifles with their awesome diopters at my freedom of use. I shot them once or twice but they weren't that practical for me. I've also shot tricked out M&P .22's (my favourite thus far) and tricked out Ruger 10/22's with all Volz. kits and custom comps and gear. Recently, at the Ruger World Championships, I got to try out more .22's.

Glad you found a great rifle for yourself :)

I laughed at your comment on your friend's nightmare gun. I've seen it a lot. Just recently, an comp shooter was selling his tactified GSG .22 with fake suppressor, VFG, new rails, new stock kit, red dot... the works. It barely had any rounds down it. I actually was tempted at the price, but I know how GSG's work vs M&P's and didn't want to inherit the tacticool nightmare.

Re: The BEST .22 Rifle on the planet

Posted: 28 Sep 2011, 04:09
by jmz5
The M&P 15-22 is an awesome rifle too, just waiting for the guy on the smith & wesson forum to finish up his speedloader.

Re: The BEST .22 Rifle on the planet

Posted: 28 Sep 2011, 07:06
by flyingirish04
CZ shotguns are decent. Nowhere near as nice as their rifles. I love there rifles. They are great shooters and the workmanship on them is as good as European lux brands. I wish they paid as much attention to the workmanship on their shotguns. They shoot great, but look like they are made from the cheapest wood and have tacky adornments.

For me, owning an over under or side by side means having one that looks amazing as well. Plenty of shotguns shoot well or can be tuned to shoot perfectly. it's there adornments that set them apart in my mind. Just a odd thing I have about scatter guns.

Re: The BEST .22 Rifle on the planet

Posted: 28 Sep 2011, 13:45
by FNForever
I wouldn't doubt that a 10/22 with custom work from a reputable shop would drive tacks with no problems at all. I also really like the semi-auto aspect and that they make 25 round magazines for it. As much as i've owned, sold, shot, and borrowed .22 rifles I have never come accross one in this price range that performs this well. I have no experience whatsoever in competition shooting and i have never had a weapon modified except for a trigger job on my M&P45. I have never shot a CZ shotgun either. They look very nice in person and I wouldnt doubt that they shoot as well as they look. It is one hell of a sleeper company though, I mean some of their best guns show up in beaten up paper boxes. Looks don't always translate to quality.

Re: The BEST .22 Rifle on the planet

Posted: 28 Sep 2011, 14:10
by FNForever
Oh i had to add this extra little experience i had at the range a few weeks ago. Me and a good friend were shooting the CZ (iron sights) @ 100yds. Up walks this guy with a very fancy rifle case and alot of high end .308 ammo. I mean Winchester Ballistic tip, Hornady TAP, and all this crap. I was kinda jealous. Out comes a DPMS .308 AR with a Zeiss scope on it. I believe it was their SASS rifle. He sets up a target next to ours and proceeds to destroy the dirt mound all around his target. Not one shot out of like 40 hit the target. I offered some help to sight in his scope and he barked some crap about doing this for 20 years and mind my own business. By this point my friend and I had set up my scope(Centerpoint 4-16x40 for $60) and placed spent shotgun shell cases on the gound in front of our target. We started to systematically drop every single shotgun shell we placed down there and every time we hit one that guy would yell every cuss word he could think of. It was hilarious. We would cheer and celebrate every good shot and finally moved on to paper. I finished a box of 333rds winchester .22 and left the range. By the time we left he had yet to hit paper. We had a good 2 hrs of fun for $10 and that is why i love .22

Re: The BEST .22 Rifle on the planet

Posted: 28 Sep 2011, 15:58
by FNForever
We have to shoot through a steel barrel at the only range around here. Its stupid but they consider it safer. Its about 3 ft in diameter and 4 ft long. So i've heard that subsonic is pretty quiet out of the long barrel on the Ultra Lux but i wouldnt know because that stupid "safety" barrel makes everything sound like a cannon.

Re: The BEST .22 Rifle on the planet

Posted: 28 Sep 2011, 16:34
by jmz5
satellitedr3ams wrote:I had a 452 2e and I loved it, with the can all you hear is "click"
I love my spectre, on the 10/22 I made for it, you hear very very little action noise. I added more weight to the bolt, not much. CCI cycles fine, aguila super extra is finicky though.

Still trying to think of ways to quiet down the action noise on my 15-22

Re: The BEST .22 Rifle on the planet

Posted: 25 Mar 2012, 21:17
by NLVMike
I was walking through the gun show a couple of weeks ago (always dangerous), and I was drawn to the subtle call of a CZ 452, in 17hmr. I picked it up and it purred, even with a cheap scope on it. It followed me home for $425. I am so impressed. I went straight out to the range and zeroed it at 100 yards. I put a full box through it, just cuz it was so darn fun, and by the end the 10 ring was dead every shot. For grins, I took it out to 200 yards. It still shot amazing groups, with almost exactly a 10' drop. I gotta go shoot some prairie dogs, soon. Bone stock, I am thrilled with this gun. I still would mind a tricked out 10/22, but I love this one.

BTW, my daughter shoots a GSG 5/22, and she loves it because she loves the tacticool look. It doesn't seem to bother her that we have many hundreds of rounds down it, and have never made it through a mag without jamming. All types of ammo. Fun, but I'd hate to have to depend on it.

Re: The BEST .22 Rifle on the planet

Posted: 25 Mar 2012, 21:34
by blueorison
NLVMike wrote:I was walking through the gun show a couple of weeks ago (always dangerous), and I was drawn to the subtle call of a CZ 452, in 17hmr. I picked it up and it purred, even with a cheap scope on it. It followed me home for $425. I am so impressed. I went straight out to the range and zeroed it at 100 yards. I put a full box through it, just cuz it was so darn fun, and by the end the 10 ring was dead every shot. For grins, I took it out to 200 yards. It still shot amazing groups, with almost exactly a 10' drop. I gotta go shoot some prairie dogs, soon. Bone stock, I am thrilled with this gun. I still would mind a tricked out 10/22, but I love this one.

BTW, my daughter shoots a GSG 5/22, and she loves it because she loves the tacticool look. It doesn't seem to bother her that we have many hundreds of rounds down it, and have never made it through a mag without jamming. All types of ammo. Fun, but I'd hate to have to depend on it.
awesome... love the 452... shot SpaceCoyote's CZ with a suppressor. It was so silent.

Never liked the GSG, but your daughter's right; it looks cool. I just couldn't like it because.. it didn't work correctly.

The S&W M&P15-22 works pretty well, though!

Re: The BEST .22 Rifle on the planet

Posted: 25 Mar 2012, 21:36
by Rapier1772
NLVMike wrote:For grins, I took it out to 200 yards. It still shot amazing groups, with almost exactly a 10' drop.
10 foot drop?! I am going to assume you meant 10" (inches), please correct me if I am wrong. I was thinking about buying one :D

Re: The BEST .22 Rifle on the planet

Posted: 26 Mar 2012, 05:17
by NLVMike
My bad. Very consistent 10" drop. I was using a 12" shoot n see target. I put a mark 4" above the top and set the crosshairs there, and shot out the bullseye.

Re: The BEST .22 Rifle on the planet

Posted: 04 Apr 2012, 03:34
by Cohiba
I bought a savage MKII for 200 bucks that will put 5 shots under a dime. hard to beat performance.
I guess its all about what your looking for in a 22.

Re: The BEST .22 Rifle on the planet

Posted: 16 Apr 2012, 20:14
by NLVMike
This one may not be the best, but dang it's cool. It comes with it's own floating backpack. I couldn't resist. I don't plan on ever growing up.

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Re: The BEST .22 Rifle on the planet

Posted: 28 Apr 2012, 06:29
by fooschnickens
I can totally see someone making an SBR out of one of those and putting a folding stock on it. Talk about the ultimate backpack gun!

Re: The BEST .22 Rifle on the planet

Posted: 11 May 2012, 19:28
by LA-LI-LU-LE-LO
I have a Sig 522 that has been very reliable with all kinds of 22 ammo. I cleaned it when I received it and that was 6 months back. Ever since then me and my friends just been going through the Federal 550 round packs. I've shot it in cold weather and during some sandstorms. The gun is very dirty now and still hasn't jammed.

Re: The BEST .22 Rifle on the planet

Posted: 23 May 2012, 21:11
by NLVMike
This may sound like I'm stating the obvious. I took my daughter out to the range and we scrapped the Remington in the green 525 box, and got a box of 325 Federal Match Grade 22LR. What a difference in her GSG 522. The scouts are going to have to burn through that Remington in the Ruger Single Six or one of my bolt action 22's. We actually enjoyed the GSG when it wasn't jamming all the time. She still got a couple of common jams, where it just caught the spent casing, but nothing she couldn't deal with. Accuracy was OK too, but that gun will never be a tack driver.

Re: The BEST .22 Rifle on the planet

Posted: 23 May 2012, 21:33
by Rapier1772
Remington 22 sucks. I bought 2 boxes before I knew that. I have a lot to go through... I need a new rifle :laugh:

I counted my mom's ammo a while back. Holy smeg! Mom has 4600 rounds of .22LR! And she never goes shooting :skep: