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The white-cased is the Voere caseless round. Propellant is the case.

War wolf great work! My boys and I have loved your work. We are big 5.7 fans. Keep up the good work bro.
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Which ammo is good for in door range?

Santagata wrote:Which ammo is good for in door range?

The kind you can find/afford the most of.

One of the reasons the FsN is hard to sight in is that the different ammo has different points of impact (POI) on the target. My recommendation is to use whatever ammo you can get a hold of for practice, just work on your grouping. Then, once that is consistent, sight your gun using the ammo you will carry with.
If you won't be using the gun for defensive carry (i.e. range gun only) then sight for the ammo you would normally use.
For the most part, there are only 3 kinds of factory ammo out there right now - FNH 197 (aka blue tips), FNH 195, and American Eagle FMJ. When you are ready for defense loads, I suggest Elite Ammunition (banner at top of page)

i picked up some ss198 couple months ago for 31 dollars a box, if i remember correctly it was pushing past 2200 on the chrono

2100fps from FSN

So beside the green paint, is there any real difference between the old white box SS195LF and current SS198LF? As I recall the whit box ammo ran about 2100 FPS out of my five seven.

Surfgun wrote:So beside the green paint, is there any real difference between the old white box SS195LF and current SS198LF? As I recall the whit box ammo ran about 2100 FPS out of my five seven.

SS198 is loaded a bit hotter than SS195. I want to say about 50-100FPS faster out of the 5.7.

White box SS195LF has been in the 1950-2050 range from what I recall. I have a box to test that. SS198LF is around 2100-high 21xx fps.

http://www.fnhusa.com/l/products/ammunition/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Current list from FNH Ammunition.

LOL Half of those have not been imported in almost 5+ years.

:ponder: So.. It is my understanding that the ss195 is 2600 fps out of the PS90 and so the ss198 should run about 2800 fps out of the PS90?? The T6b runs at 3095 fps out of the PS90. Am I correct with these numbers?
Also.... What is the Foot pounds of the T6b compared to the ss198. Thanks!!

M1P90 wrote::ponder: So.. It is my understanding that the ss195 is 2600 fps out of the PS90 and so the ss198 should run about 2800 fps out of the PS90?? The T6b runs at 3095 fps out of the PS90. Am I correct with these numbers?
Also.... What is the Foot pounds of the T6b compared to the ss198. Thanks!!

All those velocities are subject to change whether FN's or ours. FNH is always using different powders and before I started importing powder during the lack of supplies I had to use powders that would cost me 100fps. Not much but still not optimal.



319 for the current T6B from a FsN 562 for the PS90.

2800 fps is a bit high, when I tested 198 from a PS90 I got 2710 average. BUT based on the 2800 it would be about 460 foot pounds.

If you have 2 of the 3 values most free on line ballistic programs can supply the third value.


I like Point Blank for fast stuff. I use an older version, the new and improved one is no longer fast and easy.

http://huntingnut.com/index.php?name=pointblank" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:thumb: Thanks! Now I'm really liking the T6B ammo!

T6B 3095fps ......... 562 ft lbs
ss198 2800fps ......... 460 ft lbs (Real number closer to 2700fps ....... 440ft lbs)
ss195 2600fps ......... 420 ft lbs (Real number closer to 2500fps ....... 404ft lbs)
ss197 2100fps ......... 390 ft lbs

I barely get 2500 fps from the PS90 and SS198LF

Buffman wrote:I barely get 2500 fps from the PS90 and SS198LF

What type of velocity are you getting with the SS195 out of the PS90? I'm curious if SS198 is worth the $0.10-$0.15 price increase over the SS195 in the PS90.

I came across these interesting 5.7x28 prototypes today on IAA forum:


"5.7 x 28 P90 related items. There are 3 case types here: .22 Magnum (2nd round is a triplex loading), 5.7 x 27(short neck) and normal 5.7 x 28 (end round has duplex projectile."
http://iaaforum.org/forum3/viewtopic.ph ... f&start=75" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

cool! Thanks for sharing

Neat. Sabots?

Grantness wrote:Neat. Sabots?

Yes, they all look to be saboted 4mm projectiles, including a duplex round (shoots 2 stacked projectiles at once.)

Not sure what the material is, or whether any were ever fired, but certainly a cool bit of history.

A great collection posted on reddit /r/guns:

spyderco monkey wrote:A great collection posted on reddit /r/guns:

Row 1:
FN SS90 - early AP prototype
FN SS196SR - Red Ballistic V-Max Tip
ELP Replace-A-Core Dragon-Teeth
ELP Replace-A-Core 2 Ball Sabot
ELP Slip-PINZ Sabot
ELP Replace-A-Core Fine Point G-2
ELP Mercury Capsule
ELP Cobalt Core
Row 2:
ELP Tungsten Spiked Projectile
ELP Hollow Point Fragmentation Boat Tail
ELP MHP (Maximum Hollow Point) Projectile
ELP IT's projectile, A 4-Ball Serrated Fragmentation Boat Tail with the #1 Turbine Glide Texture Projectile
ELP Nickel Spiked projectile
ELP 13g. AGLDR (Aluminum Glider) Projectile
ELP E-3 Class 3 Capsule
ELP Replace-A-Core Fine Point G-1
Row 3:
ELP Tungsten Spiked High Speed Stinger
ELP EBF (Expander Ball Fragmentation)
Red Plastic Blank
FN SS192 - Aluminum Core Hollow Point
FN SS197SR - Blue Ballistic V-Max Tip
FN SS197SR - Blue Ballistic V-Max Tip
FN SS190 - Black Tip AP
FN SS192 - Aluminum Core Hollow Point
Row 4:
FN T194 - Green Tip Aluminum Core Hollow Point Training Round
FN SS198LF Green Tip Lead Free Hollow Point
Vanguard V-57 Prime
FN SS192 - Aluminum Core Hollow Point
FN SS192 - Aluminum Core Hollow Point
FMJ
Elite Ammo S4M
Elite Ammo ProtecTOR-II

https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/ ... e_57x28mm/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Very informative, thanks!!