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Post by Engineer » 13 May 2013, 07:22

I bought 10 boxes "na na na na na!!!"

But to answer the other questions, I didnt have to wait 24 hours. I ordered the first batch of 5 Saturday night then the Second batch of 5 at 12:05am Sunday morning. Finally I can go to the range now.

The FN57 was starting to gather dust (figuratively of course because I'd have to wipe her down if she got dusty at all).

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Post by Burt Gummer » 13 May 2013, 12:04

Congrats on getting 10, a lot of us got five.

250 rounds doesn't last very long; going to have to practice slow, bullseye shooting instead of steel plates.

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Post by Drago » 14 May 2013, 11:04

I was able to get 10 but had to get a buddy to order 5 and 5 myself. It was Sat. night 0230 when I saw the in stock email, was gone Sunday when I looked for more. UPS says delivery is tomorrow!!!

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Post by 500SWfan » 14 May 2013, 20:26

For those inclined, ammunitiondepot.com has a package deal in stock of 200 bulk packaged SS198 rounds, 4-50 round FNH P90/PS90 magazines, and a .50 caliber ammo can for $329.97...about $1.00 a round for the SS198 if you deduct the cost of the mags and the ammo can. Personally, I think I'll pass. ;)
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Post by walther99 » 14 May 2013, 22:24

A local Gander Mtn store just opened up...they had just about every caliber except for 5.7....

They said they should be getting in some SS195s though.

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Post by Rapier1772 » 14 May 2013, 23:55

GM will charge at least $40 per box for 5.7 - unless they pulled their heads out of their cornholes in the last 4-5 years.
That was the price I saw on boxes of 197 in their store before there was any chaos to be worried about.
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Post by Beecher Tool » 15 May 2013, 13:40

Just had a very interesting result for a gunbroker.com auction. I just won an auction for a 2,000 round sealed case of SS192 for $2025 [auction# 340826529]. The part that is causing a bit of concern is that the seller is unrated which raises a potential flag given the size of the purchase. I am exploring a couple of ways to build some confidence, such as closing the transaction on a face to face basis, or using an intermediary.

The point that is particularly interesting to me is that there are a number of auctions for the same ammo where the reserve prices have been averaging closer to $2/round...examples of current auctions being #340902222, #341827196 and others. I realize that > $1/round for this ammo isn't anyone's idea of cheap, but when SS198 is selling for the same or higher, I think I may have lucked into what I would refer to as a proceed with caution or potentially good deal.

Finally, if I am able to close this out at the price I paid, I would be willing to part with some of it at a reasonable premium, perhaps 10% above what I paid for it if anyone is interested, however this is not an offer to sell, merely me thinking out loud. With AE at $.80 in most places, me thinks that $1/round for SS192 isn't such a bad deal....welcome your thoughts.

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Post by Rapier1772 » 15 May 2013, 14:52

As I recall, gunbroker is like ebay in that you have legal recourse should the item not be delivered or as promised.
Everyone has to start somewhere & I don't know of anyone who had positive reviews before they bought/sold anything.

As for the price - you're saying you didn't paying enough? :skep: I'm sure the seller would accept more if you care to make up the difference :laugh:
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Post by Beecher Tool » 15 May 2013, 15:11

I appreciate your thoughts..and am merely thinking out loud.....everyone deserves a chance on a first transaction and I am just seeking to be careful....legal recourse exists but isn't the way anyone would want to go if it can be avoided. As for pricing, far from complaining, rather am a bit stunned in that my sense is that its a reasonably good deal in this environment...just concerned that it may be too good...like finding a $2K SCAR 17...thinking about making a road trip from Chicago to Lexington, KY with range visits along the way...the Illinois State Rifle Association Range is in Bonfield, IL....there is a public range at Ft. Knox if my memory is correct...if I can plug in a couple of other stops...think I have a buddy to make the trip it could be a nice break.

I am just somewhat surprised that this particular auction didn't grab more attention.....I tried to cite examples of comparable listings for SS192, as well as other full case auctions....I guess I just am cynical enough that I don't expect to find a decent deal in this climate. I will update progress as this unfolds.

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Post by Fwafwow » 15 May 2013, 15:48

Beecher Tool wrote:Just had a very interesting result for a gunbroker.com auction. I just won an auction for a 2,000 round sealed case of SS192 for $2025 [auction# 340826529]. The part that is causing a bit of concern is that the seller is unrated which raises a potential flag given the size of the purchase. I am exploring a couple of ways to build some confidence, such as closing the transaction on a face to face basis, or using an intermediary.
Just some thoughts: have you communicated with the seller and asked for some basic info, like name, address and maybe a copy of a drivers license (if the seller is an individual), or if a business, for enough info to separately research him/her or it? Are you paying by credit card? Do you know anyone in Lexington who can check on the person?

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Post by Beecher Tool » 15 May 2013, 15:52

Your thoughts are appreciated....after 30 years as a CPA....I have a sense of how to approach...my sense since he won't take credit card is I will do this FTF....which is an excuse for a road trip. The idea here is that while there are plenty of means for recourse if there is a problem first off...I think I got a deal and am willing to give the guy a chance..merely going to take some steps to build confidence...my favorite expression "Trust everyone but tie your camel to a tree".

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Post by ROCKETW19 » 16 May 2013, 23:33

not to sound mean or anything but did you ever think of any of this before you placed your bid? I do not know how GB works as that place sucks azz but maybe thats why no one else bid on this great find of yours.
2000$ is def something to worrie about can you pay-pal him some just to know he is real and you have a connection? is there anything else besides driving down there? That ammo gonna get real costly after that road trip.
hopefully you can find a way to feel safe and make your deal good luck

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Post by Beecher Tool » 17 May 2013, 05:42

Actually....I won the auction and spoke to the seller...his father was an FFL dealer that gave him ammo for his birthday......and yep....I managed to get him to sell me the rest of it for the same price.....so I am going to pick up FOUR unopened 2000 round cans of SS192....picking it up face to face...all of the details worked out.....and he is getting a bank check. I have a friend that works on base at Fort Knox....so we are going get this done in a safe location. The next step is figuring out whether there is a reasonably fair way to share some of it with all of you. At this point, NO PM's please I am going to need some time to figure out what my needs are, what my local buddies need, etc, and then there should be a way to share some of this out. FINALLY and NO I am not counting chickens until I have physical custody of the stuff.

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Post by Rapier1772 » 17 May 2013, 07:54

That is still a helluva road trip. Factoring in the cost of the trip, that ammo isn't such a good deal after all.

On the other hand, if you have a reason to go there aside from the ammo then that helps considerably.
Have a safe trip.
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Post by Beecher Tool » 17 May 2013, 08:08

I am going with a buddy....going to spend a half day shooting at the Illinois State Rifle Association Range in Bonfield, IL....the French Shooting Club at Fort Knox....and trying to find a long distance range in Indiana for the trip back.....so I get out of my office for the first time in eight months.....a bunch of shooting time...and pick up a bunch of ammo....seems like a plan to me.

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Post by fd57 » 17 May 2013, 10:02

SS192 pre-Nov 2012 was $30-40 per box of 50 rounds, so figure ~$.70 per round. In fact one of our sponsors here, Big Dog Outfitters, sold some cases of it for $35/box IIRC. Paying more than $1600 per case is over-priced. Remember it's a only a 28grain HP projectile and while some ballistics testing shows perhaps better terminal ballistics than the SS197, there are other projectiles that perform equally well or better at a more affordable price point. In fact, you can pull SS195 as the projectile is the same and load it with leaded primers to mimic the SS192 if so desired.

But from your other posts it appears the 5.7x28 reloading path is in your future, so you will see some of the other projectiles and how awesome they are. :)

Enjoy the road trip. Sounds like loads of fun.

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Post by Beecher Tool » 17 May 2013, 10:22

Again...two other sales to provide some perspective:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =341304973" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =342179749" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =341614896" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =342405706" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I could get rid of all of it locally at a minimum of $1.80/round if I wanted to...the market is insane.....

But...I am more excited about the trip.

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Post by Ditch » 17 May 2013, 12:50

A LGS got in 10 boxes of AE selling 25$ a box with 1 box a day limit. so far I am the only one buying it.

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Post by Burt Gummer » 17 May 2013, 13:17

Sorry for my ignorance, but who/what is LGS?

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Post by Ditch » 17 May 2013, 13:19

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