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I know that they are civilian. I was being sarcastic toward swenk's comment about a civilian not being able to get a post ban gun. He edited his post.

Sarcasm seems to be the theme of the day!
:p

And I'm too sleep deprived to pick up on any of it.
I'm way off my game guys.
Sorry.

Cyberfly wrote:Artos 'claimed' to have gone through similar events.
Artos also claimed a lot of things. Not even sure Artos was of legal drinking age to be honest...

Dont be pickin on my poor "artos" lmao not to highjack the thread but i was very dissappointed finding out about him!

I'm sure that in his own mind, he was a true operator. He probably scored higher than all of us put together in whatever video game his wee little mind wandered off to when he became Artos the Destroyer of Nations, Operator Extraordinare, International Spy, Bodyguard to the Elite or whatever the frack he thought he was on that particular day.

Cyberfly wrote:I'm sure that in his own mind, he was a true operator. He probably scored higher than all of us put together in whatever video game his wee little mind wandered off to when he became Artos the Destroyer of Nations, Operator Extraordinare, International Spy, Bodyguard to the Elite or whatever the frack he thought he was on that particular day.

fly you hit that one right on the head though.

I just calls em as I sees em...

Aside from bypassing the sheriff's approval, is there any benefit to a gun trust?

Not after 41p takes effect. Not that I see anyway.

Yep, no form 4 necessary to xfer to an individual bease the trust is the owner.

If you want to give someone access to your NFA item(s), thenjoy just make them a trustee of the trust.

But I still have to buy tax stamps, still have the BATFE wait time, still have all the usual BS, just with an additional price tag of $400 (last I checked). But if I have a sheriff who allows such items, it's really kinda unnecessary.

BTW, I don't trust anyone enough to give them access :-D

If you buy a bunch-o-NFA items, it makes more sense. For me it was anyway because I don't have one of those "nice" sheriffs.

Also, I have a son who uses the NFA items as well as a cool new wife who enjoys shooting. If I get hit by a falling meteorite, they're Trustees of the NFA Trust and assuming the guns survive the interstellar accident, then there's no paperwork nonsense or additional tax stamps/fees to wait on.

As always, YMMV.

Too lazy to make new thread:

Just moved from Idaho to Washington, do I need to do anything to make my suppressor legal here or does it transfer? I thought it was a state thing but local gun stores think I'm ok as long as I keep the tax stamp with me when using it (usually keep a copy in truck all the time anyway).

So... this thread is almost ten years old... but I’m gonna comment anyway.

1. Obtain an FFL. If you can buy a pistol, you are eligible for an FFL. There may be zoning restrictions, requirements to have a commercial storefront, etc. all of that depends upon where you live,
2. Pay your annual SOT tax stamp of $500. If you are eligible for an FFL, you can also have an SOT simply by paying the additional tax.
3. Find a P90. This is the hard part. In the old days you’d just call up FN or a distributor and say that you need a post sample demo. You’d need a letter from a police department requesting a demonstration. Generally speaking, it used to be pretty easy. Then people started writing demo letters for MG42s and all sorts of stuff that no police agency on the planet would buy. Some manufacturers, of which FN is one (I think) stopped post sample distributions to dealers. They’d send the gun to the agency. Or their own sales rep. So chances of an SOT getting a new P90 from FN are slim. FN may very well say to you, sure, we’ll send that to you when you order 100,000$ worth of other FN stuff for your “business”. So, knowing that you won’t likely get a P90 from FN, where do you get one? There are some post sample guns in dealer hands. You buy one from that guy. Note that there are some class ii manufacturers converting PS90s to P90s and selling them as post-sample guns. Perfectly legit and legal, but the gun didn’t start life as a P90. Here’s an example of a guy doing just that: https://www.globalgunsales.com/weaponsd ... 4662638483 And, you know, you could do the same thing. When you apply for your FFL, simply check “manufacturer” instead of “dealer” and you can make stuff. When you send in your $500 for the SOT, if you were a class ii manufacturer, you can now make machine guns.

Probably easier to just pick up a P90 that some guy in a blue helmet drops.