Gun Mounted Light w/ Laser - Review/Poll -updated 7.13.10

Discuss the FN Five-seveN line of pistols and accessories.

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Which light w/ laser do you prefer?

Surefire X400
38
21%
Streamlight TLR-2
53
30%
Insight M6X
9
5%
Viridian X5L
62
35%
Sig Sauer STL 900L
12
7%
Insight X2L
2
1%
Glock GTL 21
1
1%
 
Total votes: 177

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Post by srt-4_jon » 12 Jul 2010, 02:44

With a dirty lens, you will see the ghost dot. Same as if you shine a laser at a dirty window. If its clean, there shouldnt be a problem.

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Post by Outlaw54 » 12 Jul 2010, 19:10

PainKillaX wrote:Regarding the STL-900L, the laser sits behind the lens, correct? Have you ever had issues with the light refracting and giving you sort of a ghost dot? I looked at both the Sig and a knock off and the reviews I read said both had this problem for some people, but not for everyone. If you haven't, please try just the laser on the wall in a dark room and let me know if you notice anything like this, thanks!
Yes, it does sit behind the lens.
I did have that problem at first, but I cleaned the lens too and adjusted it with the tool and the ghost went away. I have not had the problem since. I think if you run the laser adjustment all the way in, you get it pointing against the side of the lens and you get this effect. I had the same problem with an old Laser Devices, Inc that clips onto the groove under the slide on older models of my H&K USP and Walther P99. This model is laser only and has a lens that covers the laser. When you adjust the windage all the way right, it did the same thing.

Hope that helps, for the money ($170) this was a nice combo, for $85 it is a steal

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Re: Gun Mounted Light w/ Laser - Review/Poll -updated 7.13.

Post by bpasky » 14 Jul 2010, 04:41

Updated STL-900L 7.13.10

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Post by Outlaw54 » 14 Jul 2010, 10:42

bpasky wrote:Updated STL-900L 7.13.10
Is there a link here that I missed? What was updated??

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Post by f3rr37 » 14 Jul 2010, 10:44

Outlaw54 wrote:
bpasky wrote:Updated STL-900L 7.13.10
Is there a link here that I missed? What was updated??
Check the first post.

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Post by Outlaw54 » 14 Jul 2010, 11:09

f3rr37 wrote:
Outlaw54 wrote:
bpasky wrote:Updated STL-900L 7.13.10
Is there a link here that I missed? What was updated??
Check the first post.
Now I understand, thanks for clearing that up for me :clap:

Looks like the SIG is still in a distant 4th despite the cheaper price. I did a little comparison before I bought and price was a big factor for me once I was satisfied with the main features and I had experience and quality with the Sig accessories. I do see the Surefire (I have a full size flashlight w/ pressure pad on the rail of my AR-15) and Streamlights are very nice and popular. My own research was these are very expensive accesories in general. I recently purchased a LaserMax laser only for mounting on my rail on my AR. I saw them priced at $500-600 and after shopping I got it for $285. All of this stuff can be found cheaper if you Google and spend some time looking. The green lasers tend to be twice as expensive as the red lasers.

That was a great job (bpasky) BTW on the whole comparison and links. If you are shopping for a light/laser combo, you certainly gave a good review with lots of information.

Is there another poll like this for optical mounts for the FNP tactical .45? I would love to see a comparison of the Trijicon, Doctor and others to see what I want to put on mine.

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Post by srt-4_jon » 14 Jul 2010, 13:44

I just got my Sig and Streamlight in today. Build quality on the two seem equal but the battery door latch on the Streamlight was very nice. The Sig puts out a wider light pattern than the Streamlight but not as bright. I did see the ghost laser when I was adjusting the laser for a 7ish yard zero. Once I got the zero, it went away. I was adjusting the elevation high and I think it was hitting the reflector bowl causing the diffraction. Buttons on it are kind of complicated out of the box but with everything else, 5 minutes of playing with it and it is second nature. I dont see why people complain its overly complicated. We will see how the laser holds zero when I can get to the range. Maybe I will put it on the 10mm to see if it will hold up to the recoil.

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Post by Outlaw54 » 14 Jul 2010, 14:40

srt-4_jon wrote:I just got my Sig and Streamlight in today. Build quality on the two seem equal but the battery door latch on the Streamlight was very nice. The Sig puts out a wider light pattern than the Streamlight but not as bright. I did see the ghost laser when I was adjusting the laser for a 7ish yard zero. Once I got the zero, it went away. I was adjusting the elevation high and I think it was hitting the reflector bowl causing the diffraction. Buttons on it are kind of complicated out of the box but with everything else, 5 minutes of playing with it and it is second nature. I dont see why people complain its overly complicated. We will see how the laser holds zero when I can get to the range. Maybe I will put it on the 10mm to see if it will hold up to the recoil.
Yep that's what I found on the ghost thing too, it is aimed to hit the side and I can replicate it by using the tool and running it all the way to one side. I agree on the controls too, at a glance they seem complicated but once you use them they are easy.
I have moved it from the Five-Seven to the Mosiquito and back and now on the FNP tactical. It takes a few seconds to change it slightly and a few shots to true it up and then it holds nice. It seems like 25 yards is where it set best, the FN Five-Seven can reach a little further and out shoot the laser. It fits very snug on the rail and can take the recoil, although the 5-7 has very little recoil. I will be testing it on the .45 and now that I have 2 will probably leave one on each of the FN's, but it is nice to know that I can take it off and put it on another weapon with little trouble. I have owned some more expensive light/laser combo's that were not as easy to change out or that didn't tighten down as nice. The SIG unit is solid, well built and fits well on the length of the rail with no play on it. I have spent more and gotten less. Some of the other units may be slightly better, but I still think this is a steal at under $100 in my mail box :clap:

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Post by srt-4_jon » 14 Jul 2010, 19:30

Here is a quick beam shot comparison. I underexposed on purpose to show where the light exactly ends. Excuse the messy floor, we just bought our first house and are still unpacking. All shots are ~8 feet from the wall. Ignore the colors, I left the white balance setting from a different shoot I was doing. The Insight is a warm color like a regular incandesant bulb whereas the Sig and Streamlight are a cooler white.

This is the Insight M3. This is the head tightened all the way down to make the best water tight seal on the head. Here you can see the dark spots I was talking about. It is VERY wide light but not as bright as the other 2. It is hard to see where the edges of the light are in the picture but it does fill the entire wall with dim light. If I dont trade the light, I will be getting the LED head.
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This is the Sig STL-900. Light is wider than the TLR-1 but not as bright in the middle. No where near as wide as the Insight though.
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This is the Streamlight TLR-1s. It is very bright in the center and has the least width. Again, this is only 8 ft from the wall so it is still plenty wide for around the house.
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This is the Inisght M3 with the head loosened to focus the light to get rid of the dead spots but possibly more succeptable to water damage.
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Re: Gun Mounted Light w/ Laser - Review/Poll -updated 7.13.

Post by irie267 » 15 Jul 2010, 21:39

On a sidenote, does anyone know of a dropleg holster for a Five-Seven with a light attachment?

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Post by bpasky » 16 Jul 2010, 07:04

irie267 wrote:On a sidenote, does anyone know of a dropleg holster for a Five-Seven with a light attachment?

Side Armor is the main one that I know of, not sure if you can use for dropleg or not. There maybe more. I think Side Armor will work with;

Surefire X200
Surefire X300
Streamlight TLR-1
Streamlight TLR-2
Insight M3
Insight m6
Insight Procyon

http://www.sidearmor.com/store/index.ph ... ucts_id=18

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Post by bpasky » 16 Jul 2010, 07:23

srt-4_jon wrote:I just got my Sig and Streamlight in today. Build quality on the two seem equal but the battery door latch on the Streamlight was very nice. The Sig puts out a wider light pattern than the Streamlight but not as bright. I did see the ghost laser when I was adjusting the laser for a 7ish yard zero. Once I got the zero, it went away. I was adjusting the elevation high and I think it was hitting the reflector bowl causing the diffraction. Buttons on it are kind of complicated out of the box but with everything else, 5 minutes of playing with it and it is second nature. I dont see why people complain its overly complicated. We will see how the laser holds zero when I can get to the range. Maybe I will put it on the 10mm to see if it will hold up to the recoil.

I would take a rocker switch that is placed right in front of the trigger finger over a 3 button layout on the side of the light any day. When SHTF, you don't have time to tell the bad guy, "Hold on let me look at the side of the light here to which button i need to turn on, I can't see which one is the one I need because there is no light."

However at half or a third of the cost, it is a great option, I will give it that. BTW, great job on the comparisons with the light output. We need more stuff like that. :thumb:

Probably 90% of us or more on this forum are guys. Guys like pictures. Pictures are worth a thousand words, and if I don't have to type a thousand words to explain what a simple picture does...by all means.

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Post by srt-4_jon » 16 Jul 2010, 07:38

bpasky wrote: I would take a rocker switch that is placed right in front of the trigger finger over a 3 button layout on the side of the light any day. When SHTF, you don't have time to tell the bad guy, "Hold on let me look at the side of the light here to which button i need to turn on, I can't see which one is the one I need because there is no light."
The 2 buttons on the rear activate the light (black for on/off, yellow for momentary). The side buttons are for light function (strobe on/off) and laser activation. Therefore, all you need is to press the button that is right in front of the trigger to turn it on. Also, it has a memory so if you turn it off when it is strobing, it is strobing when you turn it on again. Also, to make the sig light strobe is alot easier than the streamlight which requires either a really fast index finger or your left hand.

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Post by jgreenberg01 » 16 Jul 2010, 13:57

srt-4_jon wrote:
bpasky wrote: I would take a rocker switch that is placed right in front of the trigger finger over a 3 button layout on the side of the light any day. When SHTF, you don't have time to tell the bad guy, "Hold on let me look at the side of the light here to which button i need to turn on, I can't see which one is the one I need because there is no light."
The 2 buttons on the rear activate the light (black for on/off, yellow for momentary). The side buttons are for light function (strobe on/off) and laser activation. Therefore, all you need is to press the button that is right in front of the trigger to turn it on. Also, it has a memory so if you turn it off when it is strobing, it is strobing when you turn it on again. Also, to make the sig light strobe is alot easier than the streamlight which requires either a really fast index finger or your left hand.
+1 to what both of you said.

I just received my Sig STL-900L today (I couldn't resist for $85). I'm used to using a TLR-1 so I had the same concern re: paddle vs. push-button. As far as I can tell, because the buttons that turn the light on/off face the trigger finger, they're just about as convenient as a paddle switch however... in that SHTF scenario, turning on the laser or toggling between strobe/solid beam using the buttons on the side is way less-than-intuitive.

Also, I have that secondary laser echo with the Sig and no amount of lens cleaning is making it go away. It's annoying but because it's so much smaller than the big laser dot... for the price, I still think it's a bargain (as long as it holds zero, which I'll report on when I shoot it next).

My TLR-1 is going on my AR57 with a pressure switch on the vertical grip, and as long as the STL-900L holds its zero on the FsN, that's where they will live for now.
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Post by srt-4_jon » 16 Jul 2010, 14:32

Have you tried activating the strobe feature on a Streamlight? It is a pain so with either light, I will need both hands.

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Post by Outlaw54 » 18 Jul 2010, 19:15

I just got my second Sig STL-900L (the one for $85) tonight and I get the ghost right out of the box. Two full turns to the left with the adjusting tool and it goes away. If the beam hits the reflecting surface coming out of the "laser hole" it will refract. Once you work the beam out of the channel it emits from, using the windage or elevation adjustments, it goes away for me twice. Not sure if this helps or it is just the guns I have put this on, both were FN's....so who knows

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Post by srt-4_jon » 19 Jul 2010, 03:54

I put the STL-900L on my 10mm with some nice warm loads and the laser stayed in place.

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Post by jgreenberg01 » 19 Jul 2010, 05:39

Outlaw54 wrote:I just got my second Sig STL-900L (the one for $85) tonight and I get the ghost right out of the box. Two full turns to the left with the adjusting tool and it goes away. If the beam hits the reflecting surface coming out of the "laser hole" it will refract. Once you work the beam out of the channel it emits from, using the windage or elevation adjustments, it goes away for me twice. Not sure if this helps or it is just the guns I have put this on, both were FN's....so who knows
Thanks, that did work. Sort of...

It does go away, but as soon as I re-zero it - the ghost returns. It needs a friggen tac-exorcism!
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Re: Gun Mounted Lights w/ Laser

Post by owsi26 » 27 Jul 2010, 03:56

burdy wrote:This forum is KING of "use the search function". To the point of being ridiculous. Why dont we just catalog all possible topics into an excel spreadsheet, add information as we learn more and shut down the discussion part of the forum? Kind of defeats the purpose. Its one reason I do a lot more reading on this forum than posting, and it has nothing to do with being thin skinned, I can assure you. Its just not worth the hassle trying to figure out who actually responded to your question while sifting through the 37 "use the search function" replies by people who I guess feel they are on another intelligence level b/c they are more familiar with forum etiquette than others. I can assure you everyone on here is a specialist in some area enough to make others feel inadequate were the topic to arise. Sorry for the tantrum, I can just image we run off a ton of new and good people weekly on here, and its not like there is so much discussion going on that we don't need anymore.
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Post by Splendid Bauble » 17 Aug 2010, 09:25

jgreenberg01 wrote:
srt-4_jon wrote:
bpasky wrote: I would take a rocker switch that is placed right in front of the trigger finger over a 3 button layout on the side of the light any day. When SHTF, you don't have time to tell the bad guy, "Hold on let me look at the side of the light here to which button i need to turn on, I can't see which one is the one I need because there is no light."
The 2 buttons on the rear activate the light (black for on/off, yellow for momentary). The side buttons are for light function (strobe on/off) and laser activation. Therefore, all you need is to press the button that is right in front of the trigger to turn it on. Also, it has a memory so if you turn it off when it is strobing, it is strobing when you turn it on again. Also, to make the sig light strobe is alot easier than the streamlight which requires either a really fast index finger or your left hand.
+1 to what both of you said.

I just received my Sig STL-900L today (I couldn't resist for $85). I'm used to using a TLR-1 so I had the same concern re: paddle vs. push-button. As far as I can tell, because the buttons that turn the light on/off face the trigger finger, they're just about as convenient as a paddle switch however... in that SHTF scenario, turning on the laser or toggling between strobe/solid beam using the buttons on the side is way less-than-intuitive.

Also, I have that secondary laser echo with the Sig and no amount of lens cleaning is making it go away. It's annoying but because it's so much smaller than the big laser dot... for the price, I still think it's a bargain (as long as it holds zero, which I'll report on when I shoot it next).

My TLR-1 is going on my AR57 with a pressure switch on the vertical grip, and as long as the STL-900L holds its zero on the FsN, that's where they will live for now.
Picked up the Sig STL-900L fairly recently. The "secondary laser echo" is there for me, but I didn't notice it once when shooting, so no actual issue there (at least for me).

Ran a couple hundred rounds through it (SS197, so nothing that powerful or exciting), had no problem with it holding zero. I did notice it changes the weight and balance of the gun significantly, FWIW (It felt fine or better shooting, but is certainly significantly heavier.)

Does anyone have any thoughts on potentially taking it apart and rewiring one of the rear buttons to turn on the laser as well? Unfortunately I'm in the middle of a move and haven't found my tiny screwdrivers yet to take a look inside it to see how difficult this might be, but seems like it would solve the only real potential problem with it: that the laser is a tiny button on the side next to other tiny buttons.

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Post by n16ht5 » 28 Jan 2011, 00:36

I have a TLR2 and a insight procyon. both really angered me because neither will take protected rechargeable CR123 batts. what a joke. $350 in lights and they won't even fit a rechargeable battery? and to top it off, my $20 chineese deal extreme glove box flashlight is much brighter than both, and WILL fit rechargeable batts. so much for USA quality. the LAST streamlight I will ever buy. who wants to fork out tons of cash for batteries when I thought I was paying up front for a quality light to use rechargeables? :furious: :furious: :furious:

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Post by blueorison » 28 Jan 2011, 01:43

I have to mirror your insight, sir.

I play around in night matches, and have seen 2 Streamlights break on FsN's, including my personal copy, such that I resolved to send my Streamlight back to the factory. Another user has broken his Insight light, also.

Apparently the FsN has a stupendous ability to break mounted lights.

Have you ever shot in the dark with those lights? Did they last for you?
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Post by n16ht5 » 28 Jan 2011, 06:47

broke a streamlight switch, broke an insight battery door (epoxied it back together). so yes and yes.



still looking for a good quality light... what do you use now?

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Post by blueorison » 28 Jan 2011, 22:35

you don't even want to know.

It begins with cheapo and ends in China.

And continues to be very reliable. Yet much dimmer. But adequate.

I won 1st place last week at the night match with it with my EA tuned pistol.

In fact, my pistol is so awesome now, it doesn't even need the light.

I won first place shooting for a total of 20 seconds in the dark for 3 stages with no lights whatsoever, when my Streamlight broke at last month's match. My EA tuned pistol took all the targets out. I mean, I squeezed the trigger here and there, but that's pretty much it.
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Post by Outlaw54 » 29 Jan 2011, 08:29

Splendid Bauble wrote:
jgreenberg01 wrote:
srt-4_jon wrote:
bpasky wrote: I would take a rocker switch that is placed right in front of the trigger finger over a 3 button layout on the side of the light any day. When SHTF, you don't have time to tell the bad guy, "Hold on let me look at the side of the light here to which button i need to turn on, I can't see which one is the one I need because there is no light."
The 2 buttons on the rear activate the light (black for on/off, yellow for momentary). The side buttons are for light function (strobe on/off) and laser activation. Therefore, all you need is to press the button that is right in front of the trigger to turn it on. Also, it has a memory so if you turn it off when it is strobing, it is strobing when you turn it on again. Also, to make the sig light strobe is alot easier than the streamlight which requires either a really fast index finger or your left hand.
+1 to what both of you said.

I just received my Sig STL-900L today (I couldn't resist for $85). I'm used to using a TLR-1 so I had the same concern re: paddle vs. push-button. As far as I can tell, because the buttons that turn the light on/off face the trigger finger, they're just about as convenient as a paddle switch however... in that SHTF scenario, turning on the laser or toggling between strobe/solid beam using the buttons on the side is way less-than-intuitive.

Also, I have that secondary laser echo with the Sig and no amount of lens cleaning is making it go away. It's annoying but because it's so much smaller than the big laser dot... for the price, I still think it's a bargain (as long as it holds zero, which I'll report on when I shoot it next).

My TLR-1 is going on my AR57 with a pressure switch on the vertical grip, and as long as the STL-900L holds its zero on the FsN, that's where they will live for now.
Picked up the Sig STL-900L fairly recently. The "secondary laser echo" is there for me, but I didn't notice it once when shooting, so no actual issue there (at least for me).

Ran a couple hundred rounds through it (SS197, so nothing that powerful or exciting), had no problem with it holding zero. I did notice it changes the weight and balance of the gun significantly, FWIW (It felt fine or better shooting, but is certainly significantly heavier.)

Does anyone have any thoughts on potentially taking it apart and rewiring one of the rear buttons to turn on the laser as well? Unfortunately I'm in the middle of a move and haven't found my tiny screwdrivers yet to take a look inside it to see how difficult this might be, but seems like it would solve the only real potential problem with it: that the laser is a tiny button on the side next to other tiny buttons.
Let us know if you figure that one out. I love the Sigs, I got them for $80 each, the sell at my dealer for $285!!!
I agree a back button for the laser would have been better

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Post by ShockedNKansas » 14 Feb 2011, 08:37

I am very impressed with the look of the Viridian lasers. It looks like they were made for the FsN. I also noticed from the Viridian site that they are making a special glock version in olive color. Since I'm getting the dark earth FsN model, that doesn't help me much. Is there any chance someone on this fine forum would have a dark earth FsN married to a Viridian AND a camera handy??

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X5L 2nd Generation!

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TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS
BEAM INTENSITY/WAVELENGTH: 5mW peak, 532nm, Class IIIa, Continuous wave

LASER BEAM DIVERGENCE/SPOT SIZE/RANGE: 1.2 mrad, approx. 0.5" at 50 feet. Up to 100 yards daylight, 2 miles at night

DIMENSIONS/WEIGHT/CONSTRUCTION: 2.84"L x 1.37"H x 1.45" W, 3.3 oz. (including battery), primarily 6061 Aircraft Grade Aluminum, front and rear covers in high strength Zytel(R) polymer

USER ADJUSTABLE: Easy to use windage and elevation adjustments on laser

POWER SOURCE/BATTERY LIFE: 6+ hours of constant laser runtime, 10+ hours of pulsing laser runtime, 60 minutes of laser and light runtime. Unit runs on one CR123A 3v lithium (included).

TACTICAL LIGHT OUTPUT: 154 lumens on continuous, 187 lumens on strobe mode

ACTIVATION AND MODES: Ambidextrous activation and infinite amount of custom operating modes (user can customize laser pulse rate, tactical light strobe rate and light output).

UNIVERSAL MOUNTING SYSTEM: Modular rail set included with unit allows quick mounting to virtually all railed handguns and rifles




This baby is definitely more compact than the previous generation. Not quite as mean-looking IMO, but probably a lot more functional due to its size.

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Post by blueorison » 14 Feb 2011, 10:35

walmart sells spray paint.
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Post by ShockedNKansas » 14 Feb 2011, 13:49

blueorison wrote:walmart sells spray paint.
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Re: Gun Mounted Lights w/ Laser

Post by flyingirish04 » 14 Feb 2011, 14:37

satellitedr3ams wrote:green messes up when its cold, like 40 or below it starts to loose power, just FYI. red aint dead.

My Viridian has operated at every temp here in Fargo. I shot it two weeks ago at -20, no problem. I even had it laying on the bench for about an hour before I turned it on and shot. Only green laser I have ever owned though.

I also have a surefire, and an Insight M6. Both work for the shooting I do. I would not take the Insight into the shite though, I wouldn't take the Viridian either most likely.
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Post by Nickf150fx4 » 17 Feb 2011, 21:40

Shockedkansas:

That Viridian x5l gen 2 is the first accessory I'm putting on my new five seven.
I've heard nothing but great review and the specs look great as well.

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Post by drinksabit » 18 Feb 2011, 10:57

Nickf150fx4 wrote:Shockedkansas:

That Viridian x5l gen 2 is the first accessory I'm putting on my new five seven.
I've heard nothing but great review and the specs look great as well.

Doesn't seem as if there are very many places to buy the gen 2 version.
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Post by Nickf150fx4 » 21 Feb 2011, 20:23

ya i'm still waiting for mine on to come in to my local dealer. I'll make sure to post pics and give a review when mine finally comes in.

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Post by fleshjunkie » 25 Feb 2011, 18:06

From Viridian's website :"The new X5L (Gen 2) will begin shipping in the 2nd quarter - Pre-order with your dealer today!"

From a chat with my local dealer, their quarters match up with calendar quarters (versus an off cycle fiscal quarter), so these bad boys should be hitting the streets in Mid-Late March/early April-ish. I'd imagine they will fly off the shelves like the compact C5L (was on a wait list for one of those until i saw the gen 2 x5l).

Unfortunately my dealer won't put in an order until they start shipping... man, i hate Cali... :wall:

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Post by Valorius » 13 Apr 2011, 09:31

I have a Viridian C5L on my HK P7. It is one hell of an awesome sighting system. The strobe light/solid laser beam mode especially would be a huge advantage in a low light fight. The 100 lumen strobe is totally disorienting, and the green beam gives an unmistakable and BRIGHT aiming cue. The unit is also very compact, with nicely located ambidextrous activation buttons. Two huge thumbs up from me.

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Post by Adjuster » 29 Apr 2011, 13:24

Wonder how hard it would be to devise a mount for this light/laser combo from Viridian on the PS90?

I'm thinking just forward of the front hand guard, mount a short weaver/Pict type rail into the stock, and use the two bolts there to secure it. (So it could be removed, and all you would have is a rail shaped hole in the the stock at most, or you could cut it down to be flush with the stock, and have no hole if you did not like the results.)

With a short rail there, any subcompact light/laser combo would mount up just forward of your support hand, so the existing tap buttons would work fine I'd think. The rail can be setup so the light/laser is flush/tight to the stock too, so no gaps. (Mine fit work on the light laser body would be possible, of if you get a unit that has remote pad ability, you could mount a flush switch on the stock so your right thumb could operate the pad(s).

I'm just thinking of ways to get a good built in laser for the PS90, but I'm not sure I like the one from AU.

Also I want a green laser, and not so much a serious light more than something that is not so bright it gives me away completely if used. (Momentary on for both light and laser independent of each other would be best.)

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Post by Adjuster » 02 May 2011, 22:28

Update: I have a Veridian CL5 on order, and a cheaper Barska Green laser.

The CL5 is for the FSN. But I'm going to see how it would possibly mount up on the PS90. (Had that apart today, and adding the rail is less of a hassle than I'd imagined.)

My idea is simple. (And simple is usually the best when it comes to weapons.)

The stock bolts together. There are two forward bolts just above the front hand guard. These bolts are just under the cast alloy "frame" that holds the barrel, optic and magazine base.

Using a Dado blade, router, or similar, you just need to cut a 1/2 inch gap down the center of the stock. You can do it by taking the stock into halves, and then router out the material 1/4 on both sides.

Now take a standard 1913 Pictatiny rail with no holes in it. Put the stock back together, and measure the width of the gap you just created. Measure where the bolts pass through the new open space there.

Now cut the rail so it's the same size as the material that's gone. (Tight fit is best I'd think, as plastic is somewhat flexible, and compresses too.)

Drill holes in the now cut rail. (Leave the part of the rail that's going to stick out full 1913 width of course, and with the normal cut profile, but the "narrow cut part is now "squared off.")

Check for fit, and get it right. Cut wide, and file to final fit is the plan.

Blue threadlock, and put it into place so the rail sticks out under the barrel/cast alloy part, and infront of the forward hand guard.

Clip on and tighten the light/laser combo of your choice. Operate with your weak hand thumb or index finger. (Most lights/lasers like this are ambidextrious, so no issue there.) Trim the plastic on the light/laser to fit how you want, or trim the PS90 to fit the light/laser as you see fit.

It does not make the platform wider. The weight of this unit is minimal. Battery changes are easy as any clip on setup. Replacement is as easy as it gets.

If it fails, you have all the back up/built in features of the PS90 and FSN.

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Re: Gun Mounted Light w/ Laser - Review/Poll -updated 7.13.

Post by Adjuster » 09 May 2011, 20:14

Got the laser/light in, and I'm impressed.

It's well made, and as in the photo above, nice and tidy but uses a 123 Lithium battery, so should have pretty good life in my experience. (And it is common with a few other lights/lasers I have, so easy to keep fresh spares that I need to carry.)

The green laser is bright, but not as easy to see in day light as I'd hoped. It is visable, but you need to know where to look in bright sunlight. Much better than red in well lit conditions indoors however.

At night, the green is nearly too bright. You really have to watch out, or you can quickly put your own night vision a notch or two down using this laser setup. The light is bright, not too bright however, so I'd say it's a good combination of size, and function.

So far, no issues at all.

Fits the FsN like it was built for it. There are three mounting options included, and I found the one that the unit came installed with fits the best on the FsN. You only use one screw to secure it, but once tight, it's not going anywhere. It can move slightly, but not so much that you lose zero using the pistol however. (And bumped, it returns to zero, but you can reef on it, and twist it out of alighment, but that's true of most plastic stuff, including the frame of the FsN.)

Have not found a holster I like with this unit on the FsN. I'd like a SERPA style, but not sure how the latch would work. The unit is wider than the trigger loop, and that's what the SERPA's lock onto.

I also got a much cheaper Barksa green laser, and it is every bit, if not slightly brighter laser than the Veridian. However, it's much larger, and the entire housing is alloy and brass. The rail mount is nice, and the unit becomes it's own new 1913 rail when you install it, so you could add a light I suppose under it, or on a carbine/rifle, a shorty forward handle would be excellent. (I'm looking at ways to integrate this Barska into my FS2K's stock front grip, and have the ability to mount other stuff to it if I want.)

I like the fact that the battery is a CR123 again, and loaded by unscrewing the laser unit, so you could leave the housing mounted to the weapon, and it should not change zero. (The front cap/laser bottems out on the housing, so it ends up in the same place every time you put it back on in theory.) I will test it out, and report back later.

On the idea for the PS90 rail... Well, looking it over, I want to keep it simple. :) KISS is important. A 1913 rail section with a round solid post on the end, drilled for the two bolts that hold the forward part of the stock in place seems like the best option.

Drill the hole so it bi-sects the two bolts, and then bolt the rail and stock together with the stock hardware for a very secure mount of small tactial lights/lasers just forward of the weak hand guard.

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Re: Gun Mounted Light w/ Laser - Review/Poll -updated 7.13.

Post by Hoss » 22 Jun 2011, 18:51

Optics Planet has Viridian new X5L 2nd Generation coming in this week. I put my name down for one when they come in. I am looking forward to putting this on my FN 57. I want a trial fit it on my DPMS LR-308.

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Post by Vafrum » 05 Jul 2011, 07:39

Viridian C5L

Its small and light.

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Post by Hoss » 13 Jul 2011, 05:40

Optics Planet :lmao: had changed my shipment date a the second time to the week of July 6th and now to the first week of September.....Yes Sir!

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Post by jgreenberg01 » 13 Jul 2011, 06:27

FWIW, I started using Optics Planet but switched to OpticsBestBuy.com because their prices tend to be a tad better. They missed a shipping date one time for me and sent it 2nd day air at no charge (and without me asking for that).

I think all these transactions are kind of a snapshot in time, but I have no complaints about opticsbestbuy.com.
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Post by Hoss » 13 Jul 2011, 15:33

Thanks for the info....I called OpticsBestBuy.com they are not a distributor of Varidian products.

It appears that Optics Planet runs the sales for Varidian. I am sorry the service isn't any better. I haven't found any other options!

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Post by Nickf150fx4 » 13 Jul 2011, 19:39

Yep been there done that...after being jacked around for a few months I canceled my order and got my gen 2 X5L from my local dealer who is a buddy for $50 cheaper. It's weird optics planet seems very hit or miss because they were great with my other tac light laser I bought from them!

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Post by GONRA » 24 Jul 2011, 11:49

Looks like you 5.7x28 FN pistol shooters highly recommend the http://www.viridiangreenlaser.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; BATTERY POWERED Viridian X5L gen2 green laser / blinding flashlite combo.

GONRA was gonna get one to fool around with,
BUT just noted the
RECHARGEABLE http://www.lasermax.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Genesis green laser.
This doesn’t seem to have the blinding flashlite.
But, RECHARGEABLE sure sounds GREAT to me!

Both products use “5 mW green lasers” so
electrical power demands FOR THE LASER ONLY should be identical.

Bet knowledgeables can speculate on future / practicality of a
RECHARGEABLE laser with specs otherwise same as the highly regarded BATTERY POWERED Viridian X5L gen2 laser / blinding flashlite combo.

Another way of posing the issue would be –
would the appropriate battery system be
small / light weight enough to be practical in this application?

Wouldn’t mind waiting around for this RECHARGEABLE product to appear – IF it really seemed feasible!

Thanx in advance, Laser / Blinding Flashlite / DC Power Pack Experts!

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Post by Valorius » 01 Sep 2011, 10:03

I have a Viridian C5L on mine. Works great...

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Post by Nickf150fx4 » 04 Sep 2011, 11:08

^^ Such an awesome pic

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Post by Valorius » 08 Sep 2011, 20:54

Thanks Nick!

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Post by eVenom » 09 Sep 2011, 19:23

I think you need more mag's

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Post by Valorius » 10 Sep 2011, 19:43

Buy them for me. :)

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Post by Adjuster » 20 Sep 2011, 10:44

The CL5 has been excellent so far, no need to change the battery, and I've used the laser for about 6 hours now, and light about .5 hour. The fact it uses the very common to my other lights/lasers 123 Lithium battery is a serious plus. (Just stock 3 types of batteries in my safe, N, 123 and 2030 disk type and of course AA and AAA. :))

I picked up a Streamlight LED lamp that is amazing. It's too big for a pistol, but for a PDW or rilfe/carbine, it's just right. Holds a tight spot out to about 100 yards! Up close, on a shotgun, it's a "light" aiming device! LOL Just put the light on the target and you are good to go. They make a rechargable version, but mine uses 3, 123 batteries, and I have yet to replace them. I tend to only use the light for a few seconds at a time, as it destroys your night vision, even from the light reflected back. (I keep it in my car to look up house numbers, and such.. Just open the sun roof, or roll down the window, and you can "spotlight" the house address, or confirm what car/truck you are looking for etc.)

It has replaced my trusty Mag Light for this duty, and is 1/3 the size, if that.
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Post by SeaHawkDriver-B » 20 Sep 2011, 11:12

I'm considering the TLR-3 for a Glock 30... but I jus saw a picture of one and theres a noticable GAP between the front of the trigger guard and the light switch... not much thought put into actually making the TLR-3 fit on compact pistols obviously.

Anyone have experience with what fits well on some of the smaller pistols?

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Post by srt-4_jon » 20 Sep 2011, 12:42

SeaHawkDriver-B wrote:I'm considering the TLR-3 for a Glock 30... but I jus saw a picture of one and theres a noticable GAP between the front of the trigger guard and the light switch... not much thought put into actually making the TLR-3 fit on compact pistols obviously.

Anyone have experience with what fits well on some of the smaller pistols?
Im pretty sure it is because of the Glock rail. Because it isnt a picitinny rail, it would sit against the trigger guard because the slot on a Glock is so far forward. I have seen pictures of someone that added another slot closer to the trigger guard to fix it.

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Post by SeaHawkDriver-B » 20 Sep 2011, 13:04

Thanks Jon, Yes the Glock rail is not a Pic, but the rail width is identical to a Pic, it just doesn't have the Pic serations. I'm trying to find a picture of a G30/G29 with a Viridian CL5 on it. The Viridian website says that it fits all Glocks.

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Post by GONRA » 20 Sep 2011, 13:12

GONRA suggests a great article "Going Green" in latest (October 2011)
"The American Rifleman" magazine.
ESPECIALLY note "Sources for Green Lasers" appended.
Lists 13 vendors + internet contact info.
As out Dear Leader sez - "Lets All Go Green"!

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Post by Valorius » 27 Sep 2011, 18:29

I shot this 12 rd group at 20 yards rapid fire with my Viridian C5L, using Elite S4M:

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Post by FNForever » 08 Oct 2011, 18:59

I have only used the Streamlight TLR-2 on my Glock 20. It is a very solid setup. The light is blinding bright and focused @ under 15yds. The laser could be more powerful but serves its purpose and holds zero even under the heavy recoil of the 10mm. Great light/laser for the price. Oh and its switchable. You can have light/laser/both....always on or instantaneous.

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Post by GONRA » 12 Dec 2011, 14:29

GONRA wants to get a Viridian X5L as recommended by you experts out there
for my 5.7x28 FN pistol. http://www.OpticsPlanet.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; info specifies a CR2 battery.
Any suggestions (actual experience only please) on
a rechargable CR2 battery / charger combo?
Apparently many CR2 batteries are rechargable, but not all.
Some brands mention "one time use" or "primary" -> NOT RECHARGABLE
but other brands do not specify ANY info that applies to recharging!
Its confusing, so am seeking an
ACTUAL USER EXPERIENCE RECOMMENDATION
from you World Renouned Experts.
THANX!

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Post by Rapier1772 » 12 Dec 2011, 15:03

I've had bad luck with my X5L (Gen 1) so while I like it when it works, it's not reliable enough to keep on a weapon - even after I sent it back to the factory for repairs.

As for the battery, I only use the non-rechargeable & they last a while. I have not tried the rechargeable kind.
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Post by ChiefJohn » 18 Dec 2011, 05:53

I've had no problems with my X5L G2 and find it very easy to operate -- 6 modes of operation. When I first installed the X5L, I did not tighten the light lens down after inserting the battery -- the light/laser would not work. Checked on the Viridian Forum and found the answer -- the light lens must be snugged down (tight). Fixed the problem. The G2 uses a CR123A battery.

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Post by FNtacticalNUT » 19 Dec 2011, 13:05

The Veridian X5L has been the best light/laser combo that I have used. It has out performed any streamlight I have used. The X5L gen1 had its quirks but they were ironed out with the GEN2. I ordered a GEN 2 from BOTACH and got a GEN 1. Sent it to Veridian and they replaced it. Also if you have a GEN 1 they will swap it out even for the C5L or you can pay them the differnece from the GEN1 to GEN 2 and they will swap it out for you. They have the best no B/S customer service in the industry.

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Post by GONRA » 19 Dec 2011, 13:49

GONRA really appreciates great replys to my
Viridian X5L Gen2 questions.
Correct battery is CR123A as some mentioned and as listed in http://www.viridiangreenlaser.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; X5L Gen 2 spec sheet.
Rechargable (maybe they all are?) CR123A batteries are available with as sets with chargers.
Today Viridian came out with a Big Announcement -
"ECR" technology. Can checkitout on their website.
ECR is not available for the 5.7x28 FN pistol.
Anyway, plan to get a X5L Gen 2
and battery / charger set in 2012 .
Thanx again and Merry Xmas / Happy New Year!

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Post by fooschnickens » 19 Dec 2011, 15:01

Two GONRA posts in a week!? :D

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Post by ChiefJohn » 20 Dec 2011, 05:48

We need to energize Viridian to make an ECR holster for the 5.7 :thumb:

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Post by JoJo » 20 Dec 2011, 11:08

ChiefJohn wrote:We need to energize Viridian to make an ECR holster for the 5.7 :thumb:
I talked to Veridian.....no :wall: plans to include the FsN! :wall:

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Post by blueorison » 20 Dec 2011, 14:21

Training/Tactics vs Function

Do not agree.
Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity.
The shooter will always matter more than the gear ever will.
Stop relying on others to do the work for you.
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Post by critterdoc » 23 Dec 2011, 10:38

Here is an FSN with a Viridian subcompact C5L mounted. Raven Concealment Systems offers a light/laser compatible holster for the FsN and Viridian's X5L (gen 2). Please note that as is depicted below, Raven does not currently list the Viridian C5L in their laser-light selection chart.

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Here is Raven's order form for the FsN:
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Here is the light selection menu on the order form, offering only Viridian's X5L laser-light option effective Nov 2014:
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Here is Maxpedition's 10" pistol case fit with the FsN:
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Post by FNtacticalNUT » 23 Dec 2011, 13:39

critterdoc
Thanks for the great info
hopefully they will have one for the x5l and FsN soon

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Post by Valorius » 23 Dec 2011, 22:13

I spoke to Viridian about the new ECR (or whatever they call it) circuitry. You cannot upgrde or trade in an existing C5L or X5L first or 2nd gen laser for the new one.

Armalaser and Laserlyte both have an old model trade in program. Viridian....not so much.

Which blows, because i have a C5L.

Only lasers made after Dec 2011 will have the new circuitry.

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Post by Eric T » 01 Feb 2012, 12:41

Hey ya'll I'm new here. I'm sorry if we're not supposed to dig up old threads, but I was searching for answers about Veridian X5L's and rechargeable batteries. I just ordered my 5-7, and an X5L (gen 1). Anyway the sight I found the X5L on just said it took cr2 batteries, and I have a ton of rechargeable ones as well as a couple chargers. Well I went to the Veridian site, and read that we shouldn't use rechargeable batteries in them. Does anybody know why? Oh and is there any chance someone has a pic (or link) of an OD Five-seveN with a black Gen1 X5L? ... And yes I have searched for a pic I've googled and binged it to death I just want to see it. NOW I come from a somewhat small city so I had to order everything online, and I'll have to wait up to 3 weeks for mine to get here. I wish I'd made up my mind at Christmas time, but I really wanted to hold a 5-7 before I bought it as it's going to be my main carry weapon. Anyway thanks all.

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Post by edorfox » 02 Feb 2012, 11:36

Hi Eric,

I think the reason for no rechargeables is due to the rate of power delivery. The lithium batteries can dump energy faster and essentially provide more "pressure". Here is an OD 5.7 with the newer Gen2 X5L.

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Post by Eric T » 02 Feb 2012, 13:06

Thanks for the pic and the info. Unfortunately after waiting a week for my 5-7 to be shipped I checked my status and they somehow cancelled my order. I never found the OD one I wanted. I did find what appears to be a tan color? It didn't look like the FDE. Oh and as for lasers Ya'll might disagree with me, but I decided on a X5L Gen1. I had a gen 2 in my order, but while searching for another one I saw pics of the Gen one. I prefer the light and laser centered and sunk back like that + after searching for ever online I found a used one for a little more than half the price of the Gen 2 I had ordered. Ohh and I guess I'll go ahead and order a couple packs of batteries instead of experimenting with my rechargeables.


So does anybody know of a fourth frame color? Kind of tan color. Maybe it is a FDE just a bad picture under some certain light I don't know, but I can't wait to see it in person.

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Post by NewGunNut » 13 Mar 2012, 18:17

I'm planning on buying a Surfire X400 but would also like to get the DG grip switch assembly for it. Surefire doesnt make and currently has no plan to make one specifically for the five-seven but they recommended using one for a gun they do support that has a similar trigger guard profile. Does anybody know if any of the following guns have such a profile?

Glock 17, 17L, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 31, 32, 34, 35, Smith & Wesson M&P, Sig Sauer P220R, P226R, P229R, HK USP Compact or fullsize 40/45, Beretta 92FS/96FS, 96 Vertek, Standard 1911, Standard 1911, Kimber TLE, Springfield XD Standard Frame.

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Post by Valorius » 09 Apr 2012, 06:35

Some pix of my Viridian C5L mounted to my FsN w/threaded barrel. I HIGHLY recommend this unit, especially the new ones which have auto on circuitry:

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Holster for FsN w/Viridian C5L from Elite:

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Post by Raveren » 23 Apr 2012, 17:06

I like this one:

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Post by Rapier1772 » 23 Apr 2012, 17:22

What is it? I don't see any ID markings on it.
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Post by Raveren » 23 Apr 2012, 19:58

Rapier1772 wrote:What is it? I don't see any ID markings on it.
It's a plastic piece of junk I pulled off an airsoft gun.

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Post by Burt Gummer » 19 Sep 2012, 10:49

A China slave made this x400 clone. $125.00. Have a real one also, the only difference is the clone has a brighter light (250 lumen).

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Post by blueorison » 19 Sep 2012, 10:55

Raveren wrote:
Rapier1772 wrote:What is it? I don't see any ID markings on it.
It's a plastic piece of junk I pulled off an airsoft gun.

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This was pretty good.

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Post by blueorison » 27 Sep 2012, 08:41

You can add another to the poll.

Laserlyte just came out with this low profile utilitarian-looking light.

It's isn't cool-looking, which is a reason why I think the majority of people voted for the Viridian.

http://www.laserlyte.com/products/fsl-3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It can mount to pic. rails, so it can go on your carbine or FsN.

What I'm pretty intrigued about is that the Laserlyte original laser they sold as their flagship is no longer listed on their page, and I can't find it, anywhere on their site. I never really liked it.

This latest one, if it can hold up to recoil from the FsN, etc. might be a good addition to your AR.
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Post by PainKillaX » 27 Sep 2012, 10:18

blueorison wrote:You can add another to the poll.

Laserlyte just came out with this low profile utilitarian-looking light.

It's isn't cool-looking, which is a reason why I think the majority of people voted for the Viridian.

http://www.laserlyte.com/products/fsl-3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It can mount to pic. rails, so it can go on your carbine or FsN.

What I'm pretty intrigued about is that the Laserlyte original laser they sold as their flagship is no longer listed on their page, and I can't find it, anywhere on their site. I never really liked it.

This latest one, if it can hold up to recoil from the FsN, etc. might be a good addition to your AR.
Their ad even shows it mounted on both and AR and the FsN :)

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Post by blueorison » 28 Sep 2012, 14:37

Pretty sure this is the same "tactical laser"

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And yet they can't spell "incredibly".

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Post by Valorius » 10 Oct 2012, 07:14

blueorison wrote:You can add another to the poll.

Laserlyte just came out with this low profile utilitarian-looking light.

It's isn't cool-looking, which is a reason why I think the majority of people voted for the Viridian.

http://www.laserlyte.com/products/fsl-3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It can mount to pic. rails, so it can go on your carbine or FsN.

What I'm pretty intrigued about is that the Laserlyte original laser they sold as their flagship is no longer listed on their page, and I can't find it, anywhere on their site. I never really liked it.

This latest one, if it can hold up to recoil from the FsN, etc. might be a good addition to your AR.
I had that model, it's ok, but the activation buttons are way too small for it to have any real world "tactical" use on a defensive weapon. I gave it to my dad for plinking.

It is not even remotely close to being in the same range as the Viridian. I think the viridian does so well because it A) Looks cool, B) works really good, holds zero well, and has nice big buttons, and C) it has a really bright strobe light built into it as well. (I also own a Viridian C5L).

I've used most major lasers on the market today, and have owned several on several different platforms. Crimson Trace and Viridian are a cut above the rest IMO.

The Armalaser SR2-635 is a better option in the same price range. I have one of those too. It's even smaller, and is a much brighter 635nm dot, whereas the laserlyte is a 650nm unit (unless they've recently updated it).

Here's a pic of the Laserlyte unit on my custom railed HK P7:

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Like i said, i gave the laser away.

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Post by blueorison » 10 Oct 2012, 10:18

:thumb: Thanks for sharing and your input!
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Post by 500SWfan » 16 May 2014, 17:28

I finally joined the Five-seveN club and bought a MKII to go with my PS90. You can add the Crimson Trace Railmaster Pro to the list. (http://www.crimsontrace.com/products/ty ... master-pro" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) It mounts securely to the FsN. Now I just need to go sight it in. :D

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Post by Middian » 17 Nov 2014, 17:46

Looks great mounted.

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Post by Ftg » 02 Sep 2015, 20:23

Just a shout out. The veridian x5l works fine for me (picky). I would like to say that anthony's leather makes the best holster in the world for this combo. This is not only a gentleman; he's an artist with gun leather. Think the extra months of waiting was well worth it (he needs more people). He'll do anything to make the customer happy. Feel I owe him that much; for the time on this new pattern. I told him my endorsement would be a curse over a blessing. Sorry, spell check is out; and peace.

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Post by Ftg » 02 Sep 2015, 20:27

Also, my x5l looks nothing like that pic; so I'm scatchcing my head. Also, optics planet lies allot; and they reporty directly to the fed so beware./

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