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Re: Removing the mag "safety"?

Posted: 10 Apr 2015, 20:15
by Bazzer69
I have a brand new 5.7 and I decided to remove the mag safety. Easy. But on the range today I discovered that I could not drop a empty mag with the slide back. The only way to reload was to release the slide, drop the empty mag, insert a new mag and finally manually cock the gun. As soon as I got home I put the spring back to the factory position. Am I the only one to experience this? Or did I do something wrong?
Bazzer

Re: Removing the mag "safety"?

Posted: 10 Apr 2015, 21:04
by Rapier1772
I'm thinking you did something wrong. My mag safety was removed during accurizing from Elite Ammunition and while it is not ejected anymore (as it was with the factory mag safety installation), it is not restrained in any way. The mag falls free due to gravity as soon as I hit the release.

Did you just move it or actually remove it? Moving it may cause binding somewhere.

Re: Removing the mag "safety"?

Posted: 11 Apr 2015, 08:21
by Bazzer69
Rapier1772 wrote:I'm thinking you did something wrong. My mag safety was removed during accurizing from Elite Ammunition and while it is not ejected anymore (as it was with the factory mag safety installation), it is not restrained in any way. The mag falls free due to gravity as soon as I hit the release.

Did you just move it or actually remove it? Moving it may cause binding somewhere.
I just moved it into the position shown in the photo at the start of the thread. I'll put it there again and post a picture.

Re: Removing the mag "safety"?

Posted: 11 Apr 2015, 10:22
by Buffman
Some of my mags were not drop free after removing the mag safety. The mag safety puts downward pressure on the mag. I re-enabled mine, and I believe EA has changed the way they remove the mag safety now.

Re: Removing the mag "safety"?

Posted: 11 Apr 2015, 18:59
by panzermk2
Buffman wrote:Some of my mags were not drop free after removing the mag safety. The mag safety puts downward pressure on the mag. I re-enabled mine, and I believe EA has changed the way they remove the mag safety now.

Bingo for this exact reason.

Re: Removing the mag "safety"?

Posted: 11 Apr 2015, 19:13
by Bazzer69
panzermk2 wrote:
Buffman wrote:Some of my mags were not drop free after removing the mag safety. The mag safety puts downward pressure on the mag. I re-enabled mine, and I believe EA has changed the way they remove the mag safety now.

Bingo for this exact reason.

You going to let us in on the secret? Please.

Re: Removing the mag "safety"?

Posted: 11 Apr 2015, 19:40
by panzermk2
We retro fit that part your FsN during accurizing to that of the Tactical which did not have a magazine disconnect.

Re: Removing the mag "safety"?

Posted: 11 Apr 2015, 19:45
by Bazzer69
panzermk2 wrote:We retro fit that part your FsN during accurizing to that of the Tactical which did not have a magazine disconnect.
I would love for you to accurize my 5.7, but I just can't afford it. But you will be hearing from me in a day or two ordering some reloading parts.
Thanks
Bazzer

Re: Removing the mag "safety"?

Posted: 11 Apr 2015, 20:02
by panzermk2
I understand, trust me, the outlay for our new in house brass has sucked up all the capital for new stuff including reloading stuff.

Re: Removing the mag "safety"?

Posted: 17 Jul 2015, 18:57
by Scardog7
It's a simple fix.

The flat metal spring that blocks the trigger bar also acts as the mag release spring. It's the same piece that you moved up and out of the way. It needs to remain in its original location. But, just do one of two things, either, 1) remove it and shorten it by a small amount (approx 1/4" to 5/16") so that it no longer interferes with the trigger bar, or, 2) bend the tip up by a similar amount to clear the trigger bar. With the first option, you'll need to fully remove this piece.

Re: Removing the mag "safety"?

Posted: 31 Jan 2017, 23:28
by Dangleesac215
Using the link that someone dropped " http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/show ... stcount=49" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; " and some other sources i figured out as im sure everyone did that that "tension bar" holds down the trigger function to engage the magazine safety. If you take off the slide and pull the 'tension bar' upward slightly you will be able to pull the trigger. So i slowly worked the "tension bar" up until it no longer held the trigger function down to the point the magazine safety is engaged. Have absoloutely no noticable. difference no loose magazine like stated about no different trigger pulls no anything. The only thing i have noticed if at all is when the magazine is out it seems like the hammer droped the tiniest bit lighter. Barely noticable and im sure if i got back and work the metal a bit more that would go away but it shoots fine and ive noticed no effects from that.
I wouldnt recomend following the directions in the link because thats altering the workings way too much in my opinion.
I honestly wouldnt recomend doing what i did either because i have no idea the actual effects although i really do not think there are any other effects aside from disengaging that drop safety.

Re: Removing the mag "safety"?

Posted: 01 Feb 2017, 14:08
by panzermk2
Keep working the flat spring and your empty magazines will stop dropping out. That spring ejects them.

Re: Removing the mag "safety"?

Posted: 02 Feb 2017, 03:55
by Toaster
.. :ponder: