How to hit at 100 yds?

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How to hit at 100 yds?

Post by 2ND AMND » 23 Apr 2011, 08:53

I'd like to try to hit a target at 100 yds, and there is probably some other people watching so Id like to get it right. Are you using the iron open sights or something else? and are you using a rest or not? Any advice you can offer? Thanks

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Re: How to hit at 100 yds?

Post by Robar » 23 Apr 2011, 09:25

Practice practice practice. Front sight squeeze. There is never other people watching or even in the area. It is you alone in your bubble. Nothing else matters. If you're going to do it, do it free hand no support. JMO.

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Re: How to hit at 100 yds?

Post by Young Guns » 23 Apr 2011, 10:00

Robar wrote:Practice practice practice. Front sight squeeze. There is never other people watching or even in the area. It is you alone in your bubble. Nothing else matters. If you're going to do it, do it free hand no support. JMO.
+1. 100 yards isn't all that far, should be no big deal.

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Re: How to hit at 100 yds?

Post by Mister Freeze » 23 Apr 2011, 14:16

With an FsN? And ss197? Rest, iron sights (adjustable with factory setting), mind the wind, and aim for the head. You'll get a 17" drop to center mass.

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Re: How to hit at 100 yds?

Post by Nickf150fx4 » 23 Apr 2011, 14:24

@misterfreeze: Is that from 100 out? If so nice Shooting! :thumb:

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Re: How to hit at 100 yds?

Post by Mister Freeze » 23 Apr 2011, 15:54

Yes, 100 yds. Just to see if I could. I've not had a chance to try again. Keep in mind that is a 1/2 size silhouette. Others have given a shot :D but I've not seen any 100yd ONLY targets.

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Re: How to hit at 100 yds?

Post by flyingirish04 » 23 Apr 2011, 18:35

It is possible for sure. You are limited to a large group being that the sights are so large. I have killed a yote at about 40 yards with one. That is the furthest that I have taken anything with it though
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Re: How to hit at 100 yds?

Post by 2ND AMND » 24 Apr 2011, 18:58

Thanks all for the advice. I still need to sight in it. What distance should I sight it in at?

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Re: How to hit at 100 yds?

Post by Robar » 24 Apr 2011, 19:14

2ND AMND wrote:Thanks all for the advice. I still need to sight in it. What distance should I sight it in at?
Some of that depends on what you plan on using it for. If it's strictly for home defense I would sight it in at the longest distance you can see in your house. Such as the distance across the living room or down a hall way. As a carry weapon I would sight it in for 15 yards, then document any drop or rise at different distances. If you only plan on shooting at 100 yards thats what I would sight it in for.

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Re: How to hit at 100 yds?

Post by Mister Freeze » 24 Apr 2011, 20:07

+1. I keep a log of all my sights and document adjustments so I can dial back to any known zero.

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Re: How to hit at 100 yds?

Post by blueorison » 24 Apr 2011, 20:17

2ND AMND wrote:Thanks all for the advice. I still need to sight in it. What distance should I sight it in at?
I see this question many times, but rarely the correct answer.

I sight my pistols in at 50 yards. While I might never have to use it at that range, I am comfortable using any of my handguns at 100 yards to take out a man-sized target if I do not have anything else for the job.

At 50 yards, anything closer will be pretty irrelevant in regards to your adjustments, as the elevation variation at closer ranges such as 30 feet will not vary very much. However, if you only account for 30 feet adjustments, if you have to hit a farther target, it will fail.

Think about it from both perspectives, and realize that the farther adjustment covers both far and close. Vice versa does not apply. :cool:
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Re: How to hit at 100 yds?

Post by ShockedNKansas » 25 Apr 2011, 07:07

Robar wrote:
2ND AMND wrote:Thanks all for the advice. I still need to sight in it. What distance should I sight it in at?
Some of that depends on what you plan on using it for. If it's strictly for home defense I would sight it in at the longest distance you can see in your house. Such as the distance across the living room or down a hall way. As a carry weapon I would sight it in for 15 yards, then document any drop or rise at different distances. If you only plan on shooting at 100 yards thats what I would sight it in for.
Agreed. If you are sighting in for self-defense, you won't have much luck defending yourself in court shooting someone beyond 15 yards or so.

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Re: How to hit at 100 yds?

Post by Robar » 25 Apr 2011, 07:31

ShockedNKansas wrote:
Robar wrote:
2ND AMND wrote:Thanks all for the advice. I still need to sight in it. What distance should I sight it in at?
Some of that depends on what you plan on using it for. If it's strictly for home defense I would sight it in at the longest distance you can see in your house. Such as the distance across the living room or down a hall way. As a carry weapon I would sight it in for 15 yards, then document any drop or rise at different distances. If you only plan on shooting at 100 yards thats what I would sight it in for.
Agreed. If you are sighting in for self-defense, you won't have much luck defending yourself in court shooting someone beyond 15 yards or so.
Well yes and no. Self defense is self defense it doesn't matter what the distance is. Most armed confrontations occur with in a much less distance than 15 yards. Somewhere closer to 8 to 12 feet.

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Re: How to hit at 100 yds?

Post by 2ND AMND » 26 Apr 2011, 16:50

OK, I bought some targets to help me sight it in and some torso man targets to try at 100 yds. I can hit a squirrel at 120ft with my airgun pistol (IZH-46m and a cheap red dot sight) off hand, so this will be something new. This is all because I saw some guys shooting their AR's at a metal silo at 100 yds and one of them said I should be able to hit it with my FiveSeven.

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Re: How to hit at 100 yds?

Post by Robar » 26 Apr 2011, 16:55

2ND AMND wrote:OK, I bought some targets to help me sight it in and some torso man targets to try at 100 yds. I can hit a squirrel at 120ft with my airgun pistol (IZH-46m and a cheap red dot sight) off hand, so this will be something new. This is all because I saw some guys shooting their AR's at a metal silo at 100 yds and one of them said I should be able to hit it with my FiveSeven.
The FsN is very capable of hitting 100 yard targets. Two things to remember:
1. Aim big miss big, aim small miss small.
2. Study long study wrong.

If you have a table and bag use it to sight the pistol in. That helps remove the human factor some, but practice without the bag or rest after you have a good zero.

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Re: How to hit at 100 yds?

Post by 2ND AMND » 26 Apr 2011, 18:34

Robar wrote:
2ND AMND wrote: Aim big miss big, aim small miss small.
isn't that from 'The Patriot'?

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Re: How to hit at 100 yds?

Post by Robar » 26 Apr 2011, 18:48

2ND AMND wrote:
Robar wrote:
2ND AMND wrote: Aim big miss big, aim small miss small.
isn't that from 'The Patriot'?
Not sure of the origin, but it's true. I learned it at a sniper/counter sniper school.

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Re: How to hit at 100 yds?

Post by 2ND AMND » 28 Apr 2011, 18:57

Robar wrote:
2ND AMND wrote:
Robar wrote:
2ND AMND wrote: Aim big miss big, aim small miss small.
isn't that from 'The Patriot'?
Not sure of the origin, but it's true. I learned it at a sniper/counter sniper school.
Just kidding really. First time I heard it was Mel Gibson saying it in The Patriot, but my wife had heard it before.

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Re: How to hit at 100 yds?

Post by 2ND AMND » 29 Apr 2011, 20:21

well, the range with rests was busy, and a 300mm lens on a Canon 5D does not a spotting scope make, so I did a lot of walking and was shooting off-hand at about 200ft. I could hit the mansize (full size) target about 75% of the time with the 5.7, but no good groupings. With my S&W Model 41 with a 2x scope, on the other hand, 50 out of 50 hit and I was shooting quickly. I need some practice and I'm not sure its sighted-in as well as it should be, but with the click-stops on the factory adj sights it may be as close as Im going to get.

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Re: How to hit at 100 yds?

Post by ShockedNKansas » 06 May 2011, 09:49

Hell, shooting a glock17 free hand at the indoor range at 25yds seems very challenging to me with iron sights. I can't imagine 100yds!! At 25yds the front sight covers the entire (blurred) target. At 100yds, your sight would be covering a huge area with an out of focus target nearly invisible. It's tough to "aim small" in that situation but then again.. I am a noob! :)

I managed to hit the bullseye at 25yds but it was just luck as I could never have actually "aimed" at it. A lot of shots fell in the rings with pts so I felt pretty good for my first time shooting at that distance.

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