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I like this 10mm Kimber
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I have an Eclipse Pro and I love it. Also you want to consider a Dan Wesson pointman 10mm.
One of the best 10mm carry guns is a Para P12-40. A chamber reaming and mild tuning gives you one heck a carry 10mm. Venry (radcat) can do the work. A P12-40 para reamed to 10mm is one of his favorite carny pieces.
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One of the best 10mm carry guns is a Para P12-40. A chamber reaming and mild tuning gives you one heck a carry 10mm. Venry (radcat) can do the work. A P12-40 para reamed to 10mm is one of his favorite carny pieces.
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thanx, ill keep those in mind :thumb:
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I think only the glock would be a great Summertime CCW because of the weight and size on the subcompact.
Others like EAA and Kimber are too heavy or practial for me to use comfortably, unless I am wearing jeans and a jacket.
Plus the capacity is more than the 1911
Others like EAA and Kimber are too heavy or practial for me to use comfortably, unless I am wearing jeans and a jacket.
Plus the capacity is more than the 1911
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i'm hoping Springfield would make an XD in 10mm some day...
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up here in the mountains i can get away w/ some sort of jacket or sweatshirt almost all year
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EAA makes a nice poly framed 10mm
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EAA never ceases to amaze me.
I guess I haven't been keeping up with the newer models.
+1 to the EAA.
I guess I haven't been keeping up with the newer models.
+1 to the EAA.
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s&w announced a new revolver for summer w/moonclips-- never would have anticipated this
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there's also the Dan Wesson C-Bob, a commander-sized 1911 with bobbed grip for better concealment. just an option, though i've decided i prefer the arched MSH on 1911's, seems to provide a firmer platform. the C-Bob has a big following, though.
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would this EAA have the same problems like the glocks do when using the fun 10mm rounds?panzermk2 wrote:EAA makes a nice poly framed 10mm
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Nope the biggest issue is cheap mags. If you get one order wolff 5% mag springs asap.
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I have a Glock 20. So the comment about the problem with the Glocks firing fun rounds got me very curious what that problem is. Please explain.
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First Gen Glock 10mm's crack there frames. Everything since has not had an issue shooting full power 10mm. Although you do get "Glock Smilies" So if you want to use full house 10mm you need to replace the barrel.
This is an extreme case of one.
This is an extreme case of one.
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I carry a S&W 1076, FWIW.
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those are so pretty.. how do you like the grip, hold-wise, compared to a regular one? do you actually prefer the feel or do you just like the concealability?
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I'm just getting it broke in, about 300 rounds, but I haven't found anything I don't like about it. As for CC, no permit or leather yet. I do need some ideas for a holster though.
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I use a Fobus paddle for my 1911's.
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but have you shot a 1911 with a regular grip? i'm asking which grip you prefer, bobbed or non-bobbed, if you have a preference.
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It is interesting that of all the calibers out there, so very many of us who love the 5.7 also have a love affair with the 10mm. Just an observation.
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I have shot both and I am indifferent about the difference. I get if you have smaller hands, you can get a hold of it quicker for drawing purposes. I do like the look of the bobtail better though with the 4 inch 1911s.
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I have 2 full size 1911 45s and the CBOB. They grip and point the same to me. The CBOB does seem to fill my hand a little more than the Kimber,but I have long fingers and double stacks are also comfortable in my hand.
susan28 wrote:but have you shot a 1911 with a regular grip? i'm asking which grip you prefer, bobbed or non-bobbed, if you have a preference.
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If you like 10mm's like I do you may want to do what I did to find more pistols to choose from. If you look up statistics (I found mine in a Corbon catalog) you will find that the 10mm and .357 Sig. are damn close as far as velocity and knockdown power. Actually, in most Corbon shells, the .357 Sig was right up there with the .357 mag. Just an idea if you are wanting a small but wicked little gun. Most people don't realize how mean the .357 Sig is. In the same catalog, in most every shell, the .357 Sig and .45 were within about 25-50lbs of muzzle energy...some shells having more with the .357 Sig, and some having more energy with the .45......MEAN cartridge.
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My issue w/ the .357SIG is that it is basically a 9mm +P+ and I have concerns about overpenetration. Although .357SIG compares favorably against 40S&W (although I personally prefer the 40)....its a no brainer between 357 and 10mm.The allure of 10mm is that you can get a TON of energy out of it along w/ a larger diameter bullet. The 10mm even beats out 45acp+P. Plus, 10mm is prob one of the only auto cartridges I would ever consider for defense against dangerous animals.
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Sorry but for years Corbon has UNDER loaded 10mm so they can push their in house 400 Corbon their claimed in there own words replacement for the 10mm
10mm 175gr HP 1350 fps 708 FTLBS
10mm 155gr HP 1650 fps 937 FTLBS
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357 SIG 125 GR. JHP 1425 FPS/ 564 FTLBS
357 SIG 115 GR. JHP 1500 FPS / 575 FTLBS
Not even close.
10mm 175gr HP 1350 fps 708 FTLBS
10mm 155gr HP 1650 fps 937 FTLBS
Corbon
357 SIG 125 GR. JHP 1425 FPS/ 564 FTLBS
357 SIG 115 GR. JHP 1500 FPS / 575 FTLBS
Not even close.
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I am speechless, having shot the sig and mag all the time, they are not even close to being on the same level. :lmao:
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Re: 10mm CCW
I have both. I have an S&W 1911SC with a bobbed grip that I shoot often, and lots of regularly gripped 1911s. Can't honestly say I have a preference for feel -- but the bobbed grip does carry a little better.susan28 wrote:but have you shot a 1911 with a regular grip? i'm asking which grip you prefer, bobbed or non-bobbed, if you have a preference.
I have a Kimber 10mm that I have in for a bob-job right now. Looking forward to shooting and carrying it.
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+1 on that.Grantness wrote:Plus, 10mm is prob one of the only auto cartridges I would ever consider for defense against dangerous animals.
But for two-legged threats, the .357SIG seems to have a lot going for it -- and a growing database of successful use. Gelatin tests don't seem to indicate any higher risk of over penetration, particularly with expanding bullets. Certainly worth watching and trying out.... now, if only I could find a decent SAO platform for .357SIG.
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I'm just going by the Corbon catalog I have. I see what you're saying by underloading it as they very well might. Maybe they did the same with the .357 mag, but it has the 10mm, .357 Sig., .357 mag, and .45 all at almost identical muzzle energy. 10mm is my favorite of the 4, but you can't find many guns in that caliber. They all have there ups and downs, but no matter how you look at it, the .357 Sig is still a pretty mean round. I'd love a 10mm in Sig or something, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen. Besy looking gun i've seen in 10mm is the 2 Kimbers. Eclipse and one other is in 10mm.
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40 S&W = 700FtLbsMedula Oblongata wrote:Glock, Smith, EAA, Dan Wesson, and many other companies make 10mm pistols.
I don't care what the Cor-Bon book says; you'll never get .357 to .40 S&W energies.
I can load 45 ACP to 850 FtLbs of energy at the muzzle; but the hottest I could ever possibly load .357 SIG only generates a ME of +- 600.
40 S&W = 700FtLbs
10mm can be loaded as hot as 1,056 FtLbs at the muzzle.
.357 Magnum = 1,000 FtLbs with a good load.
Hmmmm?? :ponder: What's it gonna take for some of those loads?
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For me to need more for my CZ40B. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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Wont find that in the load manuals Just curious, is that with light or heavy bullets?Medula Oblongata wrote:40 S&W = 700FtLbs
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It's what ever bullet we can FIND! :lmao: :lmao:
It would be one of the lighter bullets.
It would be one of the lighter bullets.
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Thanks, thats what I thought :thumb:
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yea, especially not in a Glock w/ an unsupported chamber.
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Could you work up a good, but safe, load for my Sig P239 .40 S&W?
Better yet, would you, pretty please?
Better yet, would you, pretty please?
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I'd like some of that .40 also. What is the deal with the 10mm? Why didn't more companies use that cartridge? Seems to me it's one of the baddest rounds out there. Anyone have any info on this? I think a Sig or H&K would be damn sweet in 10mm.
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I love the 10mm and have carried it for years.
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Hey Panzer I forgot you're a CZ fan. I ran accross a Rami 9mm for $400 and thought of buying it. Have you had any experience with this little gun? Looks sweet. Wonder if it comes in .45.
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I really like the RAMI in 40S&W. It does not come in 45acp.
Man is it tiny and compact. The only issue I have the the RAMI is the safety lever. It's been cut down to much. I would replace it with a standard sized safety lever.
I want a 40S&W one bad. It's on my short list along with the new Phantom CZ.
Man is it tiny and compact. The only issue I have the the RAMI is the safety lever. It's been cut down to much. I would replace it with a standard sized safety lever.
I want a 40S&W one bad. It's on my short list along with the new Phantom CZ.
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I haven't seen the Phantom....have to check it out. I would like the .40 better also, but for $400 I figured it was a good deal.
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Poly frame, interchangeable back strap.
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Damn I really like the looks of that. But I just looked into it and doesn't look like it comes in 10mm.
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You would have to go with a CZ clone called the "Witness" I have a bunch of them since I am a 10mm freak also.
Compact also but it's fugly
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Hey now!!! That's my .45 you're talking about & I like how it looks :ppanzermk2 wrote:Compact also but it's fugly
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I don't think its that fugly.
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Sorry I really like Witness's but that one is fugly. It's profile reminds me of the gun in Bladerunner for some reason.
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Hmmm, not seeing it. The gun in Bladerunner was a beefed up revolver. http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Blade_Runner" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;panzermk2 wrote:Sorry I really like Witness's but that one is fugly. It's profile reminds me of the gun in Bladerunner for some reason.
To each his (or her) own I guess. I like the compact's look better than the full size version. Of course, that may also be just because it is a little different looking... And I think it is better for CCW than my full size Witness 9mm
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I never noticed on the Blade Runner pistol, uses a Charter Arms revolver frame in addition to the Steyr receiver on top. I wonder where they got the grip?
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A friend let me shoot his Kimber 1911 10mm last week. how sweet it is. Not small as the GL 29, but about the size of the 20. Interesting comment Jay-- I have a 1st generation 20 (the one with virtually no extractor) and your "smilie" description is true.
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....AND NOW FOR YOUR ENJOYMENT!!!!!
was browsing GB for "10mm" the other day and.....
Colt has started manufacturing the Delta Elite 10mm again!!!!!!!!!!!!
only goin' for about 850ish, which in these times is quite reasonable....gettin' ready to pull the trigger :monkey: :monkey: :monkey:
was browsing GB for "10mm" the other day and.....
Colt has started manufacturing the Delta Elite 10mm again!!!!!!!!!!!!
only goin' for about 850ish, which in these times is quite reasonable....gettin' ready to pull the trigger :monkey: :monkey: :monkey:
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Sorry to disappoint. The new Delta's suck. Absolutely no improvements in quality. No upgrades at all. They are just like the original Deltas. They have more barrel slop then a Seattle crack whore has crotch slop. When I heard Colt was bringing them back I was very excited, but it's just like the late 80s early 90's. You pay WAY to much for the name and then spend another couple of grand having it fixed. Only now you can get a Kimber or DW for about the same 850 with all the goodies and no slide rattling.
Colt was so friggin cheap the didn't even put their lame ass drop in piss poor looking Gold cup beaver tail safety on it.
Sorry to disappoint. The new Delta's suck. Absolutely no improvements in quality. No upgrades at all. They are just like the original Deltas. They have more barrel slop then a Seattle crack whore has crotch slop. When I heard Colt was bringing them back I was very excited, but it's just like the late 80s early 90's. You pay WAY to much for the name and then spend another couple of grand having it fixed. Only now you can get a Kimber or DW for about the same 850 with all the goodies and no slide rattling.
Colt was so friggin cheap the didn't even put their lame ass drop in piss poor looking Gold cup beaver tail safety on it.
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tell ya what, you find me a kimber eclipse custom II in 10mm with "all the goodies" around 850, new in the box & I'm there!..guaranf***inteed :monkey: :monkey: :monkey:panzermk2 wrote:...now you can get a Kimber or DW for about the same 850 with all the goodies and no slide rattling....
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Better not let me get there first Jeff
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Give RJR a call. He put together a sweet deal for Fuzzy on his Custom Shop Kimber.
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I just found out that EAA does a conversion kit for my .45ACP Witness P Compact (The one Jay says is fugly) to 10mm. :clap: I may be blind but I didn't see a kit for the Compact on their site before - just the Carry.
Now I just have to call & find out how much $$$.
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It's always been there that I know of. All of my Witnesses are 10mm but I did look at how they have conversion kits for everything.
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Finally!
After contacting every stinking body that I could think of...I've found a holster for my Witness!
I REALLY wanted a shoulder rig, but those who made custom leather shoulder rigs didn't have blanks of the Witness, and those who had blanks, didn't make shoulder rigs. I could only find one guy who made custom leather holsters for her (according to his website anyway), but I found a reference to a website tonight and there is a place in Colorado that is pretty much 'all things Tanfoglio' (tanfoglioparts.com). And THEY carry kydex holsters. Okay, its not a nice leather holster, but its also not going to set me back as much either.
Ahhhhhh.
I was beginning to think I was going to have to get one of those kits and melt me some dadgummed kydex and form my own holster! I might could have trimmed it out with my Dremel, but I can guaran-doggone-tee you, it would NOT have been purdy!
I love this friggin weapon. I don't know why everybody doesn't have one. Seriously. I mean, I'm a Ruger guy through and through, but this Tanfoglio...I love it more than the Sig P226, the FNP, the P95, the SR9, the Glock 20, the S&W M&P .40...I've not shot a weapon yet that is as smooth, as well balanced, as well behaved, as ... as... purdy as this one. I know, I sound twitterpated. And maybe I am. Call me a heretic, but I even love it more than my beloved FsN. There! I said it.
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After contacting every stinking body that I could think of...I've found a holster for my Witness!
I REALLY wanted a shoulder rig, but those who made custom leather shoulder rigs didn't have blanks of the Witness, and those who had blanks, didn't make shoulder rigs. I could only find one guy who made custom leather holsters for her (according to his website anyway), but I found a reference to a website tonight and there is a place in Colorado that is pretty much 'all things Tanfoglio' (tanfoglioparts.com). And THEY carry kydex holsters. Okay, its not a nice leather holster, but its also not going to set me back as much either.
Ahhhhhh.
I was beginning to think I was going to have to get one of those kits and melt me some dadgummed kydex and form my own holster! I might could have trimmed it out with my Dremel, but I can guaran-doggone-tee you, it would NOT have been purdy!
I love this friggin weapon. I don't know why everybody doesn't have one. Seriously. I mean, I'm a Ruger guy through and through, but this Tanfoglio...I love it more than the Sig P226, the FNP, the P95, the SR9, the Glock 20, the S&W M&P .40...I've not shot a weapon yet that is as smooth, as well balanced, as well behaved, as ... as... purdy as this one. I know, I sound twitterpated. And maybe I am. Call me a heretic, but I even love it more than my beloved FsN. There! I said it.
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I'll consider flaming after the conversion kit & mags arrive to make mine into a 10mm. But then again, I may agree with you after I try it out
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Need a reason to try a 10mm?
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Great photo--compared to the same bullet in the 40, what an amazing diff that 300 fps increase in velocity will do!
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Makes it nuclear.fatherfoof wrote:Great photo--compared to the same bullet in the 40, what an amazing diff that 300 fps increase in velocity will do!
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Or as George W. would say, "Makes it nukular!" :laugh:
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Classic 10mm pic!
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Any thoughts on the Hunter series? I've been jonesing for a long slide.
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I made my own custom long slide with a tri-port comp basically a fancy Hunter series. I love it. Knocks deer on their ass.
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I likey!! :thumb:
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That is a serious piece of combat business. If you loaded blanks you'd probably knock the deer out just by the sheer sound it makes. :p
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I was just looking at CZ's site and it appears the 10MMs will be discontinued this year. :-(
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Interesting observation as I have always thought the same thing, just about every person that I know that has a 5.7 also has a 10MM and hardly any of them have a .45.fatherfoof wrote:It is interesting that of all the calibers out there, so very many of us who love the 5.7 also have a love affair with the 10mm. Just an observation.
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LK45s wrote:I was just looking at CZ's site and it appears the 10MMs will be discontinued this year. :-(
I heard that too.....no DW 10's this year. I'm sure they'll roll em out again though.
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It seems that I have a thing for niche weapons. Either that or its just fate. Find something you really like and they'll stop making it. :wall:
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Just discovered the 10mm EAA witness compact. I think i just found my next gun. Can i find these new? How much they running?
Anyone here have any experiance with them? Whats your opinion?
Sorry about all the questions but i really respect everyones opinion on this forum.
Anyone here have any experiance with them? Whats your opinion?
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Yes they are great. You must replace the recoil spring though. Get a 22 pound LONGSLIDE wolff spring form midway, get the three pack on sale all the time. Cut to size normally half. Also replace the mag springs with Wolff 5% power springs. Cheap springs are the weakness with Witnesses.
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Jay, I'll bet that comp makes you deaf...WHAT? What? :laugh:
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C-BOB. They are tight and smooth and handle great.
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EAA almost lost a customer :furious: I placed my order for the 10mm conversion Dec 3rd, Jan 3rd still nothing. Figured it was a holiday thing but called to check - bastards voided my order on Dec 4th because they didn't have any mags in stock.
Got it re-ordered, mags in stock this time. So now it, and 5 mags, are here! Unfortunately, no time to shoot just yet but got it switched - just change out the slide & barrel is all. I know I am going to love being able to switch back & forth at will. :thumb:
I like the look of the .45 better but I'll have to see how the 10mm shoots.
Got it re-ordered, mags in stock this time. So now it, and 5 mags, are here! Unfortunately, no time to shoot just yet but got it switched - just change out the slide & barrel is all. I know I am going to love being able to switch back & forth at will. :thumb:
I like the look of the .45 better but I'll have to see how the 10mm shoots.
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Sweet.
I think I like the sites on the .45 better, at least in profile.
Definitely give us a range report after you've tested it! :thumb:
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If someone does not stop this thread, I will be buying at least one 10 mm pistol real soon....
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Help you find one? I am sure we can do that :pReverend Herc wrote:If someone does not stop this thread, I will be buying at least one 10 mm pistol real soon....
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what kind of groups do you get with a witness compact 10mm. I started off with a saddle spread delta, Went to glock, Now I am in a kimber 10mm. I dont expect a compact to shoot like a kimber but close enough. Will kimber build someone a commander size 10mm?
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I called today and talked to Dan, I think that was his name, about this same question. I wanted a Commander sized Eclipse in 10mm and was told it wasn't possible due to the recoil of the round and springs. Then I called a few shops about full size Kimber 10mm's (Eclipse or Stainless Target II's, doesn't matter at this point) and was told by all of them that Kimber was backed up about 4-6 months on everything. :\ Really sucks as I'm itching for a 10mm and would like to stick with Kimber as I love my Ultra Raptor II.carlosrod wrote:what kind of groups do you get with a witness compact 10mm. I started off with a saddle spread delta, Went to glock, Now I am in a kimber 10mm. I dont expect a compact to shoot like a kimber but close enough. Will kimber build someone a commander size 10mm?
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I called today and talked to Dan, I think that was his name, about this same question. I wanted a Commander sized Eclipse in 10mm and was told it wasn't possible due to the recoil of the round and springs.
B@llsh@t
You can order a commander length 40cal/10mm slide form Brownells and make your own upper that you can swap on and off your full sized Kimber.
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Re: 10mm CCW
Panzer I own both a Glock 29 for CCW and a Glock 20C for Woods Carry. They both have Lone Wolf Barrels, a threaded one on the woods gun so I can mount the Wolf Muzzel break or a 'can'. I also opted for the LoneWolf stainless guide rod and spring.
When you say " you have to replace the barrel for full power 10mm", are the Lone Wolf products sufficient to fire such rounds without "Glock Smilies"?
Question 2: When are you gongi to start taking orders for your full house 10mm rounds. It says "not accepting backorders" for your 10mm on the site.
When you say " you have to replace the barrel for full power 10mm", are the Lone Wolf products sufficient to fire such rounds without "Glock Smilies"?
Question 2: When are you gongi to start taking orders for your full house 10mm rounds. It says "not accepting backorders" for your 10mm on the site.
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Yes they are perfect. You don't NEED a Lonewolf barrel but your brass will be junk for reloading if you don't.SeaHawkDriver-B wrote: When you say " you have to replace the barrel for full power 10mm", are the Lone Wolf products sufficient to fire such rounds without "Glock Smilies"?
SeaHawkDriver-B wrote: Question 2: When are you gongi to start taking orders for your full house 10mm rounds. It says "not accepting backorders" for your 10mm on the site.
We are waiting on a shipment of brass that should get here any day now. The last run is boxed up and going out to fill all the back orders. About a week and it will be up.
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Re: 10mm CCW
Can't believe I just now found this thread!
Here is my contribution: Dan Wesson CBOB 10mm and Colt Delta Elite (2009 edition):
Do not agree with the previous assessment of the DE in the thread. It worked out of the box and has been flawless. Cannot say that about all of my 1911's.
If you are looking for a Commander 10mm you should check out Fusion Firearms. Former president of DW runs it and builds some nice stuff. I recently had them price out a 10mm CCO.
Here is my contribution: Dan Wesson CBOB 10mm and Colt Delta Elite (2009 edition):
Do not agree with the previous assessment of the DE in the thread. It worked out of the box and has been flawless. Cannot say that about all of my 1911's.
If you are looking for a Commander 10mm you should check out Fusion Firearms. Former president of DW runs it and builds some nice stuff. I recently had them price out a 10mm CCO.
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I am still having problems with my converted to 10mm Witness The S&W that I shot at the Fuzzy shoot last year was awesome, this sucks! Guess I'll have to find one that does not have to be converted.
Shot a glock 10mm yesterday - it didn't jam but I still don't want one. Too bulky. Need a good deal on DW, those are purty
Shot a glock 10mm yesterday - it didn't jam but I still don't want one. Too bulky. Need a good deal on DW, those are purty
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That sucks Rapier! Yeah, even though the S&W is pretty loose, it still shoots straight
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Damn you all and your peer pressure! I was at the gun store picking up an AR lower and I made the fatal mistake of looking down (at the handgun display cases). Ended up coming home with a new friend for my FsN.
Hopefully I can track some ammo down for it before I go shooting this weekend. Most of the local stores don't carry either SS197 (not at a reasonable price at least, $30/box, thank god for A&A Arsenal) or 10mm. So, Wolf springs and a new barrel you say?
Hopefully I can track some ammo down for it before I go shooting this weekend. Most of the local stores don't carry either SS197 (not at a reasonable price at least, $30/box, thank god for A&A Arsenal) or 10mm. So, Wolf springs and a new barrel you say?
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Just springs you don't need a barrel for the Witness.xuoq wrote: 10mm. So, Wolf springs and a new barrel you say?
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Nice! Range review?xuoq wrote:Damn you all and your peer pressure! I was at the gun store picking up an AR lower and I made the fatal mistake of looking down (at the handgun display cases). Ended up coming home with a new friend for my FsN.
Hopefully I can track some ammo down for it before I go shooting this weekend. Most of the local stores don't carry either SS197 (not at a reasonable price at least, $30/box, thank god for A&A Arsenal) or 10mm. So, Wolf springs and a new barrel you say?
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Range trip didn't happen. Everyone in our group backed out, and the only range I know of is about 20 miles from me, and I would've had to get a sitter for my daughter (which I would've done anyway, it just made more sense and seemed worthwhile with a group than by myself). It just didn't work out unfortunately. I'll have a report when I finally get out there though.
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Ok, I am back to jonesing for a good, compact (≤4" bbl) 10mm and I need help finding one. After the disaster that was/is my EAA conversion, I want one that I don't have to make into a 10mm. Or one that is professionally converted - like Venry's Para P12 thing in an earlier post. I just sent him an email so I will be checking out that route. I'd love one about the size of the Kimber Ultra Raptor or CDP II
Some no goes -
-The Dan Wesson Sportsman is too big - LK45s' DW looks borderline big so definitely nothing larger
-The Bren Ten is too big
-Kimber Eclipse is too big (will call Kimber custom shop on Monday)
-Glocks are too bulky, don't like the feel anyway.
-Fusion Firearms looks to be more expensive than Kimber
-No on Delta Elite
-No EAA
Anything else?
No excuses xuoq! Go now!!! :p
Some no goes -
-The Dan Wesson Sportsman is too big - LK45s' DW looks borderline big so definitely nothing larger
-The Bren Ten is too big
-Kimber Eclipse is too big (will call Kimber custom shop on Monday)
-Glocks are too bulky, don't like the feel anyway.
-Fusion Firearms looks to be more expensive than Kimber
-No on Delta Elite
-No EAA
Anything else?
No excuses xuoq! Go now!!! :p
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I didnt like the glock 20 at all. picked up a glock 20SF and bought it. Have you tried the small frame 29?
Might want to look into S&W 10 series pistols. I dont think there are any below 4" barrel but there are some 4.25".
Might want to look into S&W 10 series pistols. I dont think there are any below 4" barrel but there are some 4.25".
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Or just buy an all steel Witness compact 10mm from EAA in the first place. Still need to let me know on those parts.Rapier1772 wrote:Ok, I am back to jonesing for a good, compact (≤4" bbl) 10mm and I need help finding one. After the disaster that was/is my EAA conversion, I want one that I don't have to make into a 10mm. Or one that is professionally converted - like Venry's Para P12 thing in an earlier post. I just sent him an email so I will be checking out that route. I'd love one about the size of the Kimber Ultra Raptor or CDP II
Some no goes -
-The Dan Wesson Sportsman is too big - LK45s' DW looks borderline big so definitely nothing larger
-The Bren Ten is too big
-Kimber Eclipse is too big (will call Kimber custom shop on Monday)
-Glocks are too bulky, don't like the feel anyway.
-Fusion Firearms looks to be more expensive than Kimber
-No on Delta Elite
-No EAA
Anything else?
No excuses xuoq! Go now!!! :p
I have one. IF you can find one. When S&W released their 610 the second time one of their largest distributors, Lew Horton, had a special run of them made with 3.5 inch barrels. Not cheap when you find them though.
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I'm going to wait until I get word back from EAA as to whether or not they can fix the gun before I decide what to do about the parts. Who knows how long that will take? Steel compact could be an option to consider :ponder: If they call me back & say they can't fix this one - maybe I should ask to trade it for a steel?panzermk2 wrote:Or just buy an all steel Witness compact 10mm from EAA in the first place. Still need to let me know on those parts.
Yes, I tried full size and mini-glocks. The handle was too short on the mini. A S&W 1076 would be nice but the only ones that I have seen for sale were not in very good condition.srt-4_jon wrote:I didn't like the glock 20 at all. picked up a glock 20SF and bought it. Have you tried the small frame 29?
Might want to look into S&W 10 series pistols. I don't think there are any below 4" barrel but there are some 4.25".
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There is more than the S&W 1076
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