bought 5.7 ammo RECENTLY?
bought 5.7 ammo RECENTLY?
this is JANUARY 2013 i can not find any 5.7x28mm anywhere the 197 or the 195, called cabelas they said they took it off their website, every major gun store in 50 miles of me, all sold out and say they have no idea when they will get more....
can someone fill me in? like what does this mean are they no longer producing the 5.7 or banning it or just too slow at making more 5.7s to sell to civilians??
can someone fill me in? like what does this mean are they no longer producing the 5.7 or banning it or just too slow at making more 5.7s to sell to civilians??
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I bought some AE TMJs in early December, but the site I got them from is sold out now. The stuff I have seen in stock recently is all AE. If you're super desperate and don't mind paying a lot more than retail, there's gunbroker.
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yeah just bought the rifle had no clue the ammo was non existant
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70 dollars a box seems a little high
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70 dollars a box seems a little high
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Just before Christmas I was in Sportsman's Outdoors here in Bend, Oregon and they had two or three cases of 5.7x28 ammo, marked (as I recall) at $27.95/box. I went back in there just after Christmas and ALL of it was gone. The guy behind the counter said that one guy came in and bought all they had. So my guess is it's the craziness that has set in, causing folks to begin hoarding, not because FN isn't producing it. Be patient and visit your ammo dealers frequently.
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what is AE TMJs??
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viewtopic.php?f=18&t=13097" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;iwantaj20 wrote:what is AE TMJs??
Nothing has been banned but there is panic buying going on everywhere and the factory just isn't stepping up production like they said they would a long time ago.
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oooh, im just a little conserned i have a new gun i bought and cant buy ammo for it yet and doesnt look like anyplace knows when that will be... kinda sucks at the moment lol
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No, it really sucks because we can't get supplies from our vendorsiwantaj20 wrote:oooh, I'm just a little concerned I have a new gun i bought and cant buy ammo for it yet and doesn't look like anyplace knows when that will be... kinda sucks at the moment lol
But it is also industry-wide
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Don't worry.
Some ammo is hitting shelves in the next 2 months.
You'd better be alert or talk to your LGS, because even some LGS owners are keeping thousands when they come in, leaving only a few thousand for customers.
Of course, this could be all internet speculation that I didn't get from the internet.
Some ammo is hitting shelves in the next 2 months.
You'd better be alert or talk to your LGS, because even some LGS owners are keeping thousands when they come in, leaving only a few thousand for customers.
Of course, this could be all internet speculation that I didn't get from the internet.
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good to know i'll keep my eyes peeled
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we all feel your pain atleast i know i do. if you get lucky and find some let everyone know ill do the same.iwantaj20 wrote:this is JANUARY 2013 i can not find any 5.7x28mm anywhere the 197 or the 195, called cabelas they said they took it off their website, every major gun store in 50 miles of me, all sold out and say they have no idea when they will get more....
can someone fill me in? like what does this mean are they no longer producing the 5.7 or banning it or just too slow at making more 5.7s to sell to civilians??
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Just about the time I think of putting some of my stash up for sale, Cabela's has 197 back in stock for $23.99 a box. Item jc-215995. Get it while you can. Hopefully this is a sign that supplies are back in the pipeline.
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just as a note that is LF primered SS197SR
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just bought two boxes over the phone from cabelas but have yet to receive an email confirmation. We'll see.
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cabelas is now out of stock.
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Ordered ten boxes this afternoon while they were still in stock.
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i ordered 10 boxes also, fingers crossed that they ship it. :thumb:PainKillaX wrote:Ordered ten boxes this afternoon while they were still in stock.
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Bought 30 boxes a few days ago from Cabela's @ $23.99. I never got any confirmation emails, but looking at my orders from my Cabela's account shows it being shipped with tracking numbers.
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Are you sure you confirmation didn't get sent into the spam filter? That's what usually happens to mine.
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Nope, nothing sent to spam. I check that nightly.Rapier1772 wrote:Are you sure you confirmation didn't get sent into the spam filter? That's what usually happens to mine.
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I talked to Cabelas yeaterday about my backorder for the Federal 40gr TMJ and the lady told me it has a possible arrival of January 12th. Who knows?
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What I can't figure out is why FNH does not have the presses running 24/7 pumping out 5.7 ammo. They could push the pre-hording wholesale/retail price up by $10 a box and many people, including me, would happily buy it.
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I might speculate they were running the stock of non lead free primer SS197SR out, since the stuff Cabela's has been selling the last couple days is LF 197SR
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Looks like I'll be adding a new round to the singles.Buffman wrote:I might speculate they were running the stock of non lead free primer SS197SR out, since the stuff Cabela's has been selling the last couple days is LF 197SR
I heard about ss197 LF, but I didn't know it was an eventuality.
Time to google pictures. Unless someone has a box they want to photograph? I don't see any online.
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Cabela's has a little pop-up disclaimer that says "If this ammo is shipped with a lead free primer, it is only the primer. The bullet still has a lead core". No indication that the ammo was anything other than SS197SR. Of course, I didn't get any delivered, and I would be glad to be proven wrong.
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Pictures already surfaced. There's a sticker on them that says lead free primer. Primer color is definately different. brass is stamped 12 as well.
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New on the right:
The crimp on the primer looks pretty heafy too:
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Oh man. That IS a freakin crimp haha. I'll ask for a round from one of our guys from the forum when we go shooting. I just hung out with SpaceCoyote today. We went rock climbing, because there are other things to do than shoot. And I was tired of being around guns, because they remind me of the people spamming every post on my facebook and youtube.
It's sad that annoying factors actually is turning me away from the gun community/guns.
At least I have you guys, who are pretty legit. And then there's the 1% of mall ninjas, but it's better than facebook and youtube.
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At least I have you guys, who are pretty legit. And then there's the 1% of mall ninjas, but it's better than facebook and youtube.
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panzermk2wife wrote:What u don't like my bitching posts on Facebook Jon......lol
What? What posts, I've not even seen any that were annoying. No, I'm talking about the posts from all those companies selling PMAGs.
"GET IT HERE, BEFORE IT IS GONE"
Every 2 seconds.
I don't even have a carbine, why the heck do I want your pmags.
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Wait. My 197 is going to have lead free primers? So it'll only be good for like...2 months, so worthless for my stash.
When it gets in I'm sending it straight back.
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prepare for the ENTIRE POPULATION OF MALL NINJAS to start whining and crying on the forums.PainKillaX wrote:Wait. My 197 is going to have lead free primers? So it'll only be good for like...2 months, so worthless for my stash.
When it gets in I'm sending it straight back.
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Just got my confirmation emails today 4 days after order. Not worried about it. Just glad I found some ammo at a good price :thumb:Rapier1772 wrote:Are you sure you confirmation didn't get sent into the spam filter? That's what usually happens to mine.
Now to find a gun :wall:
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Don't send it back, flip it on GB. Or better yet, send it to me!PainKillaX wrote:Wait. My 197 is going to have lead free primers? So it'll only be good for like...2 months, so worthless for my stash.
When it gets in I'm sending it straight back.
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Agreed - shoot it or sell it. You'll get more money if you sell it instead of returning it.
Or pull it down & fix it :skep:
Or pull it down & fix it :skep:
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"...fix it"? Removing a live primer? I've never done that because I'm afraid that the primer may ignite in the de-capping process. Is my concern misplaced?
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ddouglas wrote:"...fix it"? Removing a live primer? I've never done that because I'm afraid that the primer may ignite in the de-capping process. Is my concern misplaced?
You shouldn't worry if you're doing it with the right tools/dies. Unless you're using a hammer and a pick. :lmao:
Nvm, the primer is staked. I have no clue.
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I've deprimed live primers before, it's not really a big deal. Slow steady pressure through stroke & you should be fine. I've never had one fire - maybe I've just been lucky, maybe I'm just that good :p :lmao:
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email from Cabela's... my order was cancelled due to the ammo being sold out while they looked at the email of my stupid f$%^#*&g FOID card. F***K you IL.
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Rapier1772 wrote:I've deprimed live primers before, it's not really a big deal. Slow steady pressure through stroke & you should be fine. I've never had one fire - maybe I've just been lucky, maybe I'm just that good :p :lmao:
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Well whatever I am doing seems to be working. YMMV
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I'm not gonna say it...Rapier1772 wrote:I've deprimed live primers before, it's not really a big deal. Slow steady pressure through stroke & you should be fine. I've never had one fire - maybe I've just been lucky, maybe I'm just that good :p :lmao:
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:twss: :twss: :twss: :twss: :twss: :twss: :twss:Oldbindlestiff wrote:....go ahead. Say it...!
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It would seem that the FN factory will continue cranking out replacement. In this thread alone we have listed less than 5000 rounds. So were is the rest? This is the same thing that happen 4 years ago when Obama was first voted in office. Everyone bought amo and guns in fear that the taxes will go up.
And now they are up and the same thing is hapening.
And now they are up and the same thing is hapening.
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Rather than using live rounds, you could start out by trying to not shoot a blank...
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My wife was at Cabelas in Lacey Wa last night and bought the last 2 boxs of ss197lf. They had just stocked 100 boxs on the shelf the night before. She said that the Cabelas employee that orders the ammo said that most of 5.7 shortage was due to the Egypt army purchasing all of the main back stock before Xmas. She was also informed that alot more should be hitting the shelves in the next week or so due to FNH getting caught back up and increasing production. Also he informed her that they would be getting the AE tmj back in stock within the next week. Hopefully it pans out.
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Just to let anyone interested know. I was at the Cabela's at St. Louis Mills today. The salesperson I spoke with said they received an order of 5.7x28 a week or so ago, and it was gone with-in a day and a half. Not trying to tease and build up anyone's hope, but just to let people know where not to look at the moment.
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I've always been able to make it rain just by washing my car. I finally broke down and put 500 rounds up on GB. Greedy, maybe. More just curious as to how this craziness works. My luck, mid-way through the auction, FN will flood the market and I will end up giving it away. That's what I get for putting it up with no reserve.
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Our LGS has some. 100 bucks a box.
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this ammo has been hard to get even BEFORE the stuff happened. piss poor planning at FNH yet again...grrrr!iwantaj20 wrote:this is JANUARY 2013 i can not find any 5.7x28mm anywhere the 197 or the 195, called cabelas they said they took it off their website, every major gun store in 50 miles of me, all sold out and say they have no idea when they will get more....
can someone fill me in? like what does this mean are they no longer producing the 5.7 or banning it or just too slow at making more 5.7s to sell to civilians??
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I gave in to market pressure! and just sold ten boxes of FN197 for $60.00 a box. I told the guy to wait until the hysteria died down but he insisted. Even at that price I wavered but I still have plenty of my reloads.
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Tell him I've got another 10 boxes but he pays shipping haha. At over double what I paid I might be willing to part with some. The FsN has been usurped by my XD-S anyway.
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I had someone offer me $100/box of SS197. He just bought a new FsN and wanted to try it out. I bought the ammo to shoot, train, practice, etc with, not to make a profit.
I sold him 2 boxes at my last cost after shipping which was $22/box.
Happy he was.
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I sold him 2 boxes at my last cost after shipping which was $22/box.
Happy he was.
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I fight with this. The capitalist in me wants to make a fast (and big) buck. The decent person in me won't let me take advantage of the current situation to rob my fellow shooters.
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You have no assurance that the price will ever come down or if it will be banned. I think it will but.......PainKillaX wrote:I fight with this. The capitalist in me wants to make a fast (and big) buck. The decent person in me won't let me take advantage of the current situation to rob my fellow shooters.
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After what I heard at the SHOT show today (report in other thread), I think it will come back down. I'm OK selling a little of my stash.
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Fellow shooters?PainKillaX wrote:I fight with this. The capitalist in me wants to make a fast (and big) buck. The decent person in me won't let me take advantage of the current situation to rob my fellow shooters.
Yes, I agree, brosef, we need to stand up for certain things, together.
But when mall ninjas point loaded guns at me at the range and act like jerks when I nicely ask them to not point loaded guns at me?
I don't get pissed off, IRL. But it really pisses me off when non-firearm people group me as a "gun person" in the same group as all the video game wannabes, mall ninjas and tactifags. I'm really not a "gun person". I just happen to shoot guns. I'm probably in the .0001% of gun owners that own less guns than their fingers (on one hand).
Remember; it's the same with LE. A lot of the good ones and bad ones were already good and bad BEFORE they went in. Gun people are the same; they don't turn MAGICALLY awesome and good people the moment they get a gun. A lot of them are egotistical, mean-spirited, and unsafe.
To those people, I don't see them as being part of my firearms sub-culture. I say sub-culture because firearms is one part of my life. I do a lot of other things, as many do, on this forum. If they ban everything, I'm going to go back to bouldering and rock climbing.
While I will proudly stand by you, Painkillax, there are many that I would not - on the range or in life.
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If you're done with that soap box, kindly return it to it's properly stored position.blueorison wrote:Fellow shooters?PainKillaX wrote:I fight with this. The capitalist in me wants to make a fast (and big) buck. The decent person in me won't let me take advantage of the current situation to rob my fellow shooters.
Yes, I agree, brosef, we need to stand up for certain things, together.
But when mall ninjas point loaded guns at me at the range and act like jerks when I nicely ask them to not point loaded guns at me?
I don't get pissed off, IRL. But it really pisses me off when non-firearm people group me as a "gun person" in the same group as all the video game wannabes, mall ninjas and tactifags. I'm really not a "gun person". I just happen to shoot guns. I'm probably in the .0001% of gun owners that own less guns than their fingers (on one hand).
Remember; it's the same with LE. A lot of the good ones and bad ones were already good and bad BEFORE they went in. Gun people are the same; they don't turn MAGICALLY awesome and good people the moment they get a gun. A lot of them are egotistical, mean-spirited, and unsafe.
To those people, I don't see them as being part of my firearms sub-culture. I say sub-culture because firearms is one part of my life. I do a lot of other things, as many do, on this forum. If they ban everything, I'm going to go back to bouldering and rock climbing.
While I will proudly stand by you, Painkillax, there are many that I would not - on the range or in life.
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I've got a friend who recently got a new AR57 upper but can't find ammo anywhere on the planet. And it's driving him nuts. He keeps telling me about all the places that don't have it in stock and thinks I should be helping him out in some way. I keep telling him that my help was the last four years of telling him to "get stuff now", and then reminding him of all those times that he just rolled his eyes at me.
So last week I finally felt sorry enough for him that I caved in and offered to sell him two boxes at the price that I paid for them... but with one stipulation. That I get all the brass back. He doesn't reload so it's no skin off his nose. And I do reload so little impact to my plans, as I have thousands of .40 grain Hornady Z and V max bullets. I also made him promise to pick up any other brass he sees and bring it back to the mothership.
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If you're standing on a safety soap box, NEVER put it away.
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I don't intend to. :thumb:Rapier1772 wrote:If you're standing on a safety soap box, NEVER put it away.
People tell me to "chill out" or "why are you so worked up"?
They're just uncomfortable because I point out truths that a lot of gun owners would like nothing better to NOT talk about. Kinda like that scuff on your new Corvette that everyone knows not to talk about because it makes you mad.
I'm not mad, everyone who knows me IRL knows I don't get mad. I'm very calm & laugh, a lot. When people tell me to chill out or get off my soap box, online, I just laugh. I'll hold hands and sing your song while we dance around the fire and act like everything's ok and we all will get along. As long as you get rid of all the people who think it is ok to point loaded guns at other people just because we are all "gun owners of America". If you don't have that happening to you every Saturday/Sunday, you can't understand what I'm talking about. :laugh:
My underlying message to Painkillax was to keep doing what he was doing, and not worry about grouping ALL gun owners under the same bracket/umbrella. :thumb:
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This afternoon I spoke to a gun engineer and a lawyer from FNH. I raise the same question. The ammunition factory is running full tilt cranking out the maximum guns and ammunition possible. This means that the brokers and area depots are holding the material to create shortage and causing raise of prices. The source is cranking it out to the max. The middleman is getting fat. That is the only conclusion I can come to.
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I found a LGS in Lacey, WA J&S Guns that had about 1000 rounds of what are White Box FN SS192's. I bought one box to try them out while waiting on my order from Cabelas to show up. These I thought had been obsolete so I am not sure what back room them dug them out of. I am still new to the 5.7 realm.
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192s have been discontinued for a while, good find. Would you be willing to share what you paid for them? The 192 was a good round, it's a shame they stopped making it.
We have a couple of members in that area so I doubt the ammo will be there much longer now that they know about it :laugh:
We have a couple of members in that area so I doubt the ammo will be there much longer now that they know about it :laugh:
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Sure thing, the store was j&s gunparts. I just checked their website and it doesn't show anything as available yet I went in to the store last friday and their gun racks were full. Ammo selection was limited and very pricey but I was very surprised to find the 5.7 ammo. I only bought one box since it was $60 and I have a order with cabela's I am waiting on.
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Had to remove the link, sorry. Rule 11. viewtopic.php?f=3&t=125" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
But now people know there is a website & those eager for ammo can google it.
$60 is a bit high even for 192, but then what isn't these days? :wall:
But now people know there is a website & those eager for ammo can google it.
$60 is a bit high even for 192, but then what isn't these days? :wall:
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Yea I Just checked out the place smokey talked about. They want $67.99 per box. Date stamp from 07. They originally where asking only $50 according to the hand written price on the box. But must have decided to join the gun broker club and demand more due to putting a tag for $67.99 over the older price. ouch
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West Coast Armory in Factoria wanted $50 a box for SS197SR. I laughed at them and left.
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At $50+, you're better off buying EA.
Their ammunition is to tighter specs and hotter. Above that, it's fresher than '07.
Their ammunition is to tighter specs and hotter. Above that, it's fresher than '07.
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Blue,
Don't forget there's 12 head stamped SS197 SR now, but I don't know how wide spread it is. I would still go with EA at $50 a box. One of these days after stuff calms down, I need to try out their ammo.
Don't forget there's 12 head stamped SS197 SR now, but I don't know how wide spread it is. I would still go with EA at $50 a box. One of these days after stuff calms down, I need to try out their ammo.
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I noticed my local gun store posted an ad on backpage.com with SS195 for sale at $50 a box, this morning. This afternoon, I got a call from the owner of the gun store (yeah, I go there too much. apparantly he has my cell) asking me if I wanted to sell any of mine. He told me he brought his personal stash in and sold it all. I politely declined. Maybe I should cut a deal with him for restocking when the insanity dies down.
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Me and my lady went to a LGS... was two boxes of ss197 on the shelf marked $34.99. He said they got 12 boxes in and that was the first 5.7 ammo they have seen since October. They were limiting one box per person... we obviously each bought a box. They also had a white site ps90 on consignment there for 1600.... didn't check to see if it had a gen 2 trigger pack because I did not have the money and it would have made me sick to walk away from it. They also had a NIB FDE FiveseveN. I did not get a chance to see if it was the "new" ones with the different slide cover or whatever because the place was crawling with people.
Oh yeah, for what its worth the ss197 I bought was head stamped 07 and has no indications of being LF (yay!).
Oh yeah, for what its worth the ss197 I bought was head stamped 07 and has no indications of being LF (yay!).
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Only the 12 head stamped 197 is LF. There will also be a sticker on the box stating so.VeTTeMaNC486 wrote:Me and my lady went to a LGS... was two boxes of ss197 on the shelf marked $34.99. He said they got 12 boxes in and that was the first 5.7 ammo they have seen since October. They were limiting one box per person... we obviously each bought a box. They also had a white site ps90 on consignment there for 1600.... didn't check to see if it had a gen 2 trigger pack because I did not have the money and it would have made me sick to walk away from it. They also had a NIB FDE FiveseveN. I did not get a chance to see if it was the "new" ones with the different slide cover or whatever because the place was crawling with people.
Oh yeah, for what its worth the ss197 I bought was head stamped 07 and has no indications of being LF (yay!).
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I was at a gun show in Grand Rapids, MI today. Saw two different people with 5.7x28 ammunition. One guy has what looked like most of a case of SS197 for $50/box. The other guy said he had a few boxes of 'blue tip' and a few boxes of 'full metal jacket' for $59.95/box. I have a little ammo already, and decided I don't need any more at those prices.
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Well, I went in to my LGS today, and they had 10 boxes on consignment @ $55/box.
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Gnaz0203 wrote:Well, I went in to my LGS today, and they had 10 boxes on consignment @ $55/box.
How sweet of them! Trying to retire on one sale I see!
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LGS in West Allis, WI has about 60 boxes
$79.99/ box for SS195lf - I won't buy at that price but you're wecome to go get it.
$79.99/ box for SS195lf - I won't buy at that price but you're wecome to go get it.
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wow - long time no post. just got back from a deployment in the Caribbean, I left early December. Mind you, we have internet and cable when were in sat range, but I didn't bother keeping up with what was going on (ammo craziness). I knew it was getting bad before I left but damn; no idea until I actually when to my LGS when I got back...
only have 67rnds of SS197 left. tossed around the idea of selling my five seven, but after catching up on the forum and remembering how excited I was when I first purchased the gun, I've decided to keep it. On the other hand, I refuse to pay someone on gunbroker $0.99 per round. Just like you all I will ride out the storm, a years not gonna kill me if it takes that long to find ammo - have other toys to keep me occupied until then ^_^. I plan on checking my frequented sights every day and if I find stuff in stock I'll make it a note to post. thanks - steve
only have 67rnds of SS197 left. tossed around the idea of selling my five seven, but after catching up on the forum and remembering how excited I was when I first purchased the gun, I've decided to keep it. On the other hand, I refuse to pay someone on gunbroker $0.99 per round. Just like you all I will ride out the storm, a years not gonna kill me if it takes that long to find ammo - have other toys to keep me occupied until then ^_^. I plan on checking my frequented sights every day and if I find stuff in stock I'll make it a note to post. thanks - steve
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Just left my local gun store and they had tons @ $27.89 a box, 2 box limit though
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I was in Bloomington il this past Saturday for a gun show and found six boxes for 50 a box. I didn't get them since I had just got four boxes for my birthday on the 14 th.
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http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?co ... ound%20Box" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
$22.99/box - sounds too good to be true but I just placed an order for 5...
go go go go
$22.99/box - sounds too good to be true but I just placed an order for 5...
go go go go
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Natchez has always been good. Thanks for the tip. :clap:
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YOU ROCK!!!!! :thumb:scubasteve wrote:http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?co ... ound%20Box
$22.99/box - sounds too good to be true but I just placed an order for 5...
go go go go
5 boxes ordered.
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All of a sudden Natchezz is disregarding our FFL
Not too happy right now
Not too happy right now
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I placed an order at NSS for 5, too. Thanks again for the tip!
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Out of stock now
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Looks like a few of us got orders in. Will update if order ships or is canceled. I've never ordered with them before and was in a mad dash to make an account before it sold out .
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stitches thanks man, i'll do the same. hopefully it ships - fingers crossed
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yea i just ordered 5 boxes and hope that i get it ,fingers crossed :thumb:scubasteve wrote:stitches thanks man, i'll do the same. hopefully it ships - fingers crossed
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Expensive, but in stock.http://www.luckygunner.com/5-7x28mm-40- ... 500-rounds
Yes, I bought 500 rounds. Will let you know how my shopping experience with them. Now, I should have 750 rounds incomming :clap:
EDIT: Was 8 in stock when I posted. Now, down to 1.
Yes, I bought 500 rounds. Will let you know how my shopping experience with them. Now, I should have 750 rounds incomming :clap:
EDIT: Was 8 in stock when I posted. Now, down to 1.
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Definitely expensive....ouch
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Yep. My CC is hurting, but I will have a good supply of ammo for a bit. Now, I need to pay off my CC and start looking for a FNX 45 Tactical :thumb:panzermk2wife wrote:Definitely expensive....ouch
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I would love my cc to be hurting if I was guaranteed my supplies
So frustrating.....
So frustrating.....
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panzermk2wife wrote:I would love my cc to be hurting if I was guaranteed my supplies
So frustrating.....
I can't even imagine what you, your husband, and your employees are going through right now. It's got to be nerve wracking not knowing the future of your of your business. I can only hope that you get supplies soon and get back to work.
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Or if you want SS 197 SR for $75.00 a box: http://www.surplusammo.com/5-7x28mm-40- ... 50-rounds/
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The troll in me wants to post a "BUY IT NOW" for $0.01....
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All gone.Stitches1974 wrote:Expensive, but in stock.http://www.luckygunner.com/5-7x28mm-40- ... 500-rounds
Yes, I bought 500 rounds. Will let you know how my shopping experience with them. Now, I should have 750 rounds incomming :clap:
EDIT: Was 8 in stock when I posted. Now, down to 1.
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I just got back from our local gun store. They got a new shipment in. Could only 2 boxes @ $29.99 a box. Same price as they sold for earlier in the year
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Good you were able to find some at a reasonable price. There's a place about 70 miles from me that has them for the same price 195/197 with a 4 box a day limit. Not worth the drive to go there daily. Will have to drive out that way again and see if they have a tactical for sale or see what they have for wheel guns when I'm in the area. I was only there for a few minutes when I picked up my 5.7. If I stayed there any longer I would have been broke. :laugh:noclue wrote:I just got back from our local gun store. They got a new shipment in. Could only 2 boxes @ $29.99 a box. Same price as they sold for earlier in the year
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