What is your SHTF Pistol/Long Gun Combo?

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Re: What is your SHTF Pistol/Long Gun Combo?

Post by Rapier1772 » 09 Aug 2011, 09:13

I prefer the AR with the removable handle & my buddy loves the shell deflector on them since he's left handed :laugh: Don't know if those old ones had them :?: I haven't needed the forward assist yet, not sure how often they are used "in the field" normally.
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Re: What is your SHTF Pistol/Long Gun Combo?

Post by 2ndAMVa » 09 Aug 2011, 20:10

Cyberfly wrote:
2ndAMVa wrote:Vette,
What is a Colt SP1 carbine?
An early AR-15 variant.

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Post by Cyberfly » 10 Aug 2011, 13:56

Yup.
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Bing?!?!? traitor...

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Post by munoz » 10 Aug 2011, 18:44

That is cool, Looks really great.



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MikeSantor wrote:Bing?!?!? traitor...
Sorry. After I found out that Google saves your search info for our illustrous FedGov, I switched search engines to Bing. I hear GMail isn't as secure as we'd like to believe either...
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Cyberfly wrote:
MikeSantor wrote:Bing?!?!? traitor...
Sorry. After I found out that Google saves your search info for our illustrous FedGov, I switched search engines to Bing. I hear GMail isn't as secure as we'd like to believe either...

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Cyberfly wrote:
MikeSantor wrote:Bing?!?!? traitor...
Sorry. After I found out that Google saves your search info for our illustrous FedGov, I switched search engines to Bing.
And you think Bing doesn't?

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Haven't so far...
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Post by Gearhead721 » 19 Aug 2011, 18:36

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Post by nrv216 » 20 Aug 2011, 19:58

TheOtherDave wrote:
2ndAMVa wrote:Cpl Keith Stone,
I also have a Saiga, but in 7.62x39. It's a great carbine for the price, and extremely reliable. Looking for a Saiga 308... But I hesitate because it requires a proprietary magazine.
As far as I know, most all .308s have proprietary magazines. At least there's no clear standard that I can see. I think the major "AR-10" manufacturers all use their own incompatible magazine designs. I've seen at least one gun that borrowed the FN FAL's magazines (Kel-Tec RFB, if anyone cares), but one out of dozens isn't really a standard.

Now you've got me curious. I'm gonna go do a bit of research...

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Make Model Magazine

.308 AR-15 Designs:
Colt SP901 ???
Bushmaster Bushmaster 308 FAL, initially. Now they use something else that they won't tell you about or sell to you, but FAL mags definitely won't work anymore 
DPMS LR308 Pmag
RRA LAR-8 LAR-8
Olympic N/A N/A
Armalite AR-10 AR-10 (M14 mags can be edited to fit)
Knight’s Armament SR25 Pmag
Knight’s Armament M110 Pmag
Stag N/A N/A
LaRue Tactical OBR 7.62 Pmag

Other Designs:
Springfield M1A M14
FN FAL FAL
FN FNAR FNAR
FN SCAR-17s SCAR-17
Saiga Saiga 308 Saiga 308
Kel-Tec RFB Metric FAL
Did I forget anyone (Sig Sauer's .308 rifle isn't out yet)?

There are two things that stand out at me... First, FN seems to enjoy redesigning magazines. Second, the only mags that seem to be shared between more than one rifle are Pmags and the FAL's. Also, Kel-Tec specified metric FAL magazines; I either didn't notice or the other mfgs didn't say, and I don't know what the difference is.

Amongst AR-15-style .308s, it looks like Pmags are used in over half of them (4 out of 7 know mag types). I guess there is something resembling a standard after all. (Though there are still two rifles that use unknown magazine types, so Pmag could lose their majority just by filling in the blanks.)
All the H&K G3 variants. I am currently looking at a ptr-91 super sniper (has a harris bipod, Magpul PRS stock and a picatinny rail welded on the receiver so its optic-ready) that take the cheap g3 mags. That would be my all purpose rifle and I would probably sell off the rest. I have come to realize that I am just a more of a pistol guy and only need one shotgun and rifle. BUT... I can't buy it now. Saving up money for my wedding. They MSRP at $2100 and budsgunshop is selling them for around $1800. Someone buy the one on gunbroker listed for $1500 NEW, its a great deal and knowing that its out there is KILLING ME!

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Post by Rapier1772 » 20 Aug 2011, 22:23

nrv216 wrote:All the H&K G3 variants. I am currently looking at a ptr-91 super sniper (has a harris bipod, Magpul PRS stock and a picatinny rail welded on the receiver so its optic-ready) that take the cheap g3 mags. That would be my all purpose rifle and I would probably sell off the rest. I have come to realize that I am just a more of a pistol guy and only need one shotgun and rifle. BUT... I can't buy it now. Saving up money for my wedding. They MSRP at $2100 and budsgunshop is selling them for around $1800. Someone buy the one on gunbroker listed for $1500 NEW, its a great deal and knowing that its out there is KILLING ME!
I have that rifle, pics here: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=6194" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Its a heavy son of gun, not one you want to carry around hunting. But maybe you can plant yourself somewhere & talk some other people into bird-dogging game down a draw or something. Farthest I have consistently hit with it is OJ bottles at ~400yd so far (the farthest distance at the local range).
2 "complaints" - 1) its a pain to clean because the gases are blown back through the fluted chamber & it makes everything dirty as hell & 2) nowhere to mount a stock monopod (for elevation)

Let me know if you have any questions, maybe I can help?
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Re: What is your SHTF Pistol/Long Gun Combo?

Post by SHEEPDOG » 20 Aug 2011, 22:51

Fn 45t, Benneli M3 or M4, Blaser tac2 338 Lapua, FN fs 2000.

I have already bugged out and live in a virtual fortress.

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Post by nrv216 » 21 Aug 2011, 08:17

Rapier,
Sweet rifle! You have succeeded in making things even harder on me. Thanks :wall: But really, thanks for the link and I still can't wait to get my hands on one of my own!

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Post by SHEEPDOG » 21 Aug 2011, 18:04

+1 Cool rifle.

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Post by blueorison » 21 Aug 2011, 19:07

SHEEPDOG wrote:Fn 45t, Benneli M3 or M4, Blaser tac2 338 Lapua, FN fs 2000.

I have already bugged out and live in a virtual fortress.
LOL

dude if any wanton zombie attacks you, your bad@$$ soccer-winning offspring would kick their heads off with 2000 ft/lbs of energy, much more than any gun could afford.

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Re: What is your SHTF Pistol/Long Gun Combo?

Post by Syphon » 23 Aug 2011, 15:45

For now? My FsN With S4M ammo and my Remington 870. Both of 'em within reach from my bed at night.

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Re: What is your SHTF Pistol/Long Gun Combo?

Post by VeTTeMaNC486 » 25 Aug 2011, 09:05

Rapier1772 wrote:I prefer the AR with the removable handle & my buddy loves the shell deflector on them since he's left handed :laugh: Don't know if those old ones had them :?: I haven't needed the forward assist yet, not sure how often they are used "in the field" normally.
I would prefer a flat top myself. I don't care about the forward assist and I'm a righty so I dont care about the shell deflector. My budy who shoots rifle left handed shot it the other day, he wasn't too excited about the shells flying right by his face (also complained about power/gasses etc :laugh: ). Still a neat piece of AR history.

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Re: What is your SHTF Pistol/Long Gun Combo?

Post by SeaHawkDriver-B » 25 Aug 2011, 10:28

Bug out: Small, concealable, light weight, short to medium range, common caliber, interoperable with pistol a plus, high round count, quiet/suppessed.
Bug in: Who cares.

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Post by Llagoud » 25 Aug 2011, 11:02

SeaHawkDriver-B wrote:
Bug in: Who cares.
:thumb: Bugging in, all options are open. Since I left the city I dropped the bug out plans.......by bugging out early with everything. :laugh: Just received my emergency butter yesterday.(six #10 cans of freeze dried)

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