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Re: Israel's TAVOR

Post by jgreenberg01 » 07 Feb 2014, 05:04

Scar_Shooter wrote:I have the Tavor IDF model. I wanted it as the Mepro M21 mounts directly to the barrel. I have the triangle model M21 stock which is the best of both worlds IMO. Use the tip of the triangle for longer range & the lower half for CQB. The IDF uses this setup, so it's proven with the Tavor.

I also did some early upgrades to it as well maybe I'll get some pics posted up. I'm on the list for the 1st run of the Shooting Sight trigger, as I think it is the best between the 3 options soon to be available to the public.
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Re: Israel's TAVOR

Post by Reverend Herc » 09 Feb 2014, 18:39

jgreenberg01 wrote: Come on up to North Florida and we can dual-wield Tavors!

Actually, I may be heading to the Pompano beach area in the next few weeks. I could always throw the Tavor and maybe another gun or three in the trunk.
Dang, my plans to head up to North Florida are postponed till next month. However, if you are heading to Pompano Beach we should definitely meet up and hit a range.

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Re: Israel's TAVOR

Post by Lobo » 26 Feb 2014, 01:44

jgreenberg01 wrote:Awesome, it looks like we'll have a couple of options between that and Timney's drop-in trigger. Both will be in the 4lb range, both are drop-in, they will both ship in March 2014 and will be about the same price.

Geissele will be 2 stage and Timney will be 1 stage. Decisions, decisions...

Thanks for posting the video!

just ordered the timmey trigger tonight, will let you know how it is in March :)

(been super busy at work.......all those evil people around the world :lmao: )

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Post by Reverend Herc » 08 Mar 2014, 09:26

How much did you have to adjust the Iron sites from factory? Mine seems to shoot high right at 25 yards. I have not had a chance to shoot it at longer distances. What distance did y'all sight in your rifle?
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Post by jgreenberg01 » 08 Mar 2014, 10:25

Reverend Herc wrote:How much did you have to adjust the Iron sites from factory? Mine seems to shoot high right at 25 yards. I have not had a chance to shoot it at longer distances. What distance did y'all sight in your rifle?
Did you ever pick up a phone to call a friend and as you were about dial, you realized that you had no idea what the number was? I was about to answer your question when I realized that I never zeroed in the Tavor using its iron sights - I mounted an optic from day 1 and never took it off.

I'll try the iron sights the next time I hit the range and will let you know what the POI is at 25 yards.

As for the sight-in distance, I typically zero rifles at 50 yards, That way I know it's just about a 1" adjustment at either 25 or 100 yards. Also a 50 yard zero is typically very close at 200 yards (depending on the ammo used, height over bore, etc...). Mine is zeroed at 50 and is also about 1" off at 200 yards. Not that it really matters that much because it's not quite a MOA rifle - not gonna do any precision shooting with the Tavor.
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Post by Reverend Herc » 08 Mar 2014, 18:55

I am still putting nickels together for "optics". So until then I am rocking the Iron sights. I appreciate you taking the time to give it a look for me.

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Post by Reverend Herc » 05 Apr 2014, 18:16

Here she is, her name is "Madison".... I still do not know what type of optics she will be wearing, but I am leaning towards eotech, but part of me wants an aimpoint pro.

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Post by jgreenberg01 » 06 Apr 2014, 04:55

Hello Madison!
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Post by panzermk2 » 06 Apr 2014, 12:14

jgreenberg01 wrote:Hello Madison!
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Re: Israel's TAVOR

Post by reformer17 » 19 May 2014, 10:51

Does anyone know if the smaller version came out yet? I had the 21 but had to sell it. With body armor, the length of pull was way to long. If they would/could shorten the LOP on the 21 about 3 inches, it would be great. Mine actually had quite a nice trigger for a bullpup.

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Post by Reverend Herc » 30 May 2014, 19:43

Lil Madison is going for a doctor check up on Monday. The front sight is hard left, for her to shoot straight. It seems to be a known issue. They were very nice to send a UPS shipping notice and hopefully she will be back in my arms soon. Until then my PS90; my first love, will return to front line duties....

Ill keep you updated...

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Re: Israel's TAVOR

Post by Rapier1772 » 30 May 2014, 20:06

I dry fired one last week, the trigger is terrible.
$1900 for the rifle but then you gotta spend another $300+ to fix the trigger? That's rude.
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Post by Reverend Herc » 31 May 2014, 17:38

I paid $1586 plus $10 shipping and handling to FFL. FFL transfer and background, plus tax add another $15.00 to that. Not bad, I don't regret it.

My trigger when I tested it was about 8.5 lbs before shooting. I feel after a couple of hundred rounds it has gotten better, but by no means is it great or comparable to some of the rifles I have shot. I see this as an investment because regardless of what rifle I would have bought I would have added upgrades to it regardless. Most people who own AR's and shoot regularly modify their rifle in excess of the price they spent on it.

To put this into perspective; When I am ready, I will see a trigger upgrade on my Tavor, like putting Michelin tires on my car. I do not necessary need premium tires but it sure feels a lot nicer than the alternative.........
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Post by Rapier1772 » 31 May 2014, 20:35

At that price, I wouldn't mind as much. Regular price is typically $1900-$2100 from what I've seen in stores, so $1600+$300 trigger is pretty much breaking even IMO.

My PTR had an 8lb trigger when I got it, I had to have the trigger reworked & I wasn't happy about it. Guess I'm crazy for expecting decent operation when I fork over that much money.
BTW, I am pretty sure the trigger pull on the TAVOR I tried out was over 15lbs.
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Post by jgreenberg01 » 01 Jun 2014, 06:26

Rapier1772 wrote:At that price, I wouldn't mind as much. Regular price is typically $1900-$2100 from what I've seen in stores, so $1600+$300 trigger is pretty much breaking even IMO.

My PTR had an 8lb trigger when I got it, I had to have the trigger reworked & I wasn't happy about it. Guess I'm crazy for expecting decent operation when I fork over that much money.
BTW, I am pretty sure the trigger pull on the TAVOR I tried out was over 15lbs.
Mine was 14lbs when I got it. I little work and a bunch-o-rounds and it's down to 8lbs.

With regard to the trigger: I was really disappointed when I first fired mine, but then I started to think that maybe my expectations were not set properly.

1) It's a bullpup and they will always have trigger issues, and while it was heavy, it wasn't the least bit mushy
2) This really is designed as a battle rifle, it's not a bench rest rifle - I wonder if the folks in the IDF complain about its trigger?
3) I don't know about you, but I'm used to shooting my ARs that all have 4# Timney triggers which makes for an unfair comparison. Even my 10/22 has a Timney trigger
4) IMHO, I think I've been spoiled by my other rifles, aside from the PS90 (also a bullpup) which is pretty darn mushy
5) Thinking back, pretty much all of my rifles had rough(ish) triggers out of the box, a couple of them felt as if I was pulling it through a mile of gravel before the bang

I could be wrong about this being an expectation issue, but since I came to that conclusion I have talked to several others, some Tavor owners, some not, who agree.

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Re: Israel's TAVOR

Post by Lobo » 10 Jun 2014, 16:04

mine is about the same, so I got a timmy trigger, dropped in really easy, nice 3-4 pd pull......but then I strated getting light primer strikes (about 1 of 3), so I emailed timmy....they sent a kit for me to change out. so that will happen this week and I'll take her out this weekend (yea, yea, photos will be posted with it.... :D )

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Post by Rapier1772 » 10 Jun 2014, 16:18

Are they just sending a stiffer spring or what?
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Post by Lobo » 10 Jun 2014, 16:57

good thing I checked the posts before logging off.....(but you made me re-open up my email)

this is what was said in the last email from their service department "I am going to send you a new hammer spring and a new spring for your firing pin. This should eliminate your light primer strike problem"

emails were done within two days, package showed up a week later.......

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Re: Israel's TAVOR

Post by panzermk2 » 15 Aug 2014, 08:54

Torture Test: ShootingSight TAV-D Tavor Trigger
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Re: Israel's TAVOR

Post by JoJo » 16 Aug 2014, 07:45

Awesome. Now I know what I am buying me for Christmas. :D

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