Can a pistol be a religious experience?

Valorius · Post by **Valorius** » 21 Sep 2012, 14:12

I think so.

My custom P7 with rail, night sights, ceramic/chrome dual tone finish, and Nill HK logo Rholmas grips.

I love this gun.

flyingirish04 · Post by **flyingirish04** » 21 Sep 2012, 14:22

You have raped the otherwise fine lines of the P7. Shame on you.

Post by **Cyberfly** » 21 Sep 2012, 14:45

Do you always load your mags backwards or are you just paying homage to the famous HK advertisements?

Post by **MrSlippyFist** » 21 Sep 2012, 14:57

MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Valorius · Post by **Valorius** » 21 Sep 2012, 16:06

Cyberfly wrote:Do you always load your mags backwards or are you just paying homage to the famous HK advertisements?

Considering that it is indeed an HK...what do you think?

Post by **f3rr37** » 21 Sep 2012, 17:35

Post by **Cyberfly** » 21 Sep 2012, 18:29

Valorius wrote:
Cyberfly wrote:Do you always load your mags backwards or are you just paying homage to the famous HK advertisements?
Considering that it is indeed an HK...what do you think?

Honestly?
Either you stole the picture or you're a bonehead...

flyingirish04 · Post by **flyingirish04** » 21 Sep 2012, 20:36

It was an HK. Now it is a mutant abomination. And not in a cool way like wolverine, but in a severely messed up way like the kids of that woman in OH that just found out her husband was her biological father.

Valorius · Post by **Valorius** » 21 Sep 2012, 21:16

Cyberfly wrote:
Valorius wrote:
Cyberfly wrote:Do you always load your mags backwards or are you just paying homage to the famous HK advertisements?
Considering that it is indeed an HK...what do you think?
Honestly?
Either you stole the picture or you're a bonehead...

It is a tradition to photo HK's with the bullets loaded in the mags backwards. Check out HKPro.com sometime. If i didn't put the bullets in backwards, i'd get razzed.

flyingirish04 wrote:It was an HK. Now it is a mutant abomination. And not in a cool way like wolverine, but in a severely messed up way like the kids of that woman in OH that just found out her husband was her biological father.

The guys at HKPro LOVE it, just like i do.

Turned down $1400 for it today from my brother, who is a die hard P7 guy. I love this gun!

Post by **Cyberfly** » 21 Sep 2012, 22:29

Okay, I can honestly say, "If you are happy, then I am happy for you!"

flyingirish04 · Post by **flyingirish04** » 21 Sep 2012, 22:57

Valorius wrote:
Cyberfly wrote:
Valorius wrote:
Cyberfly wrote:Do you always load your mags backwards or are you just paying homage to the famous HK advertisements?
Considering that it is indeed an HK...what do you think?
Honestly?
Either you stole the picture or you're a bonehead...
It is a tradition to photo HK's with the bullets loaded in the mags backwards. Check out HKPro.com sometime. If i didn't put the bullets in backwards, i'd get razzed.

flyingirish04 wrote:It was an HK. Now it is a mutant abomination. And not in a cool way like wolverine, but in a severely messed up way like the kids of that woman in OH that just found out her husband was her biological father.
The guys at HKPro LOVE it, just like i do.

Turned down $1400 for it today from my brother, who is a die hard P7 guy. I love this gun!

Glad you are happy with it. I wouldn't be, but that's me.

Valorius · Post by **Valorius** » 22 Sep 2012, 05:14

I'm pretty sure i didn't build it for you. :p :lmao:

Post by **Cyberfly** » 22 Sep 2012, 08:19

Valorius wrote:I'm pretty sure i didn't build it for you. :p :lmao:

Okay, not to pick at nits, but didn't HK build it and then you simply dress it up the way you liked it?
Or is this me pulling an Obama? "You didn't build that!"

flyingirish04 · Post by **flyingirish04** » 22 Sep 2012, 12:19

Of course you didn't build it for me. I have taste

:p

Valorius · Post by **Valorius** » 22 Sep 2012, 15:18

Poor taste...but taste nonetheless.

Here is the HK ad that started the bullet backwards trend:

Post by **Cyberfly** » 22 Sep 2012, 15:31

Valorius wrote:Here is the HK ad that started the bullet backwards trend:

Y-e-a-h...I think we've all seen it a time or fourteen. Sorta why I asked in my post above if you did it on purpose or if you were just a bonehead.
You do realize that there is a difference between being a fan and a fanboi, right?

I'm just saying...

Valorius · Post by **Valorius** » 22 Sep 2012, 18:52

I'm sure that i need you to explain it me. Make sure you use small words.

flyingirish04 · Post by **flyingirish04** » 23 Sep 2012, 00:28

Sorry, I can't get over this. I thought before you modded it that it was a beautiful weapon. Loved it.

But now? Seriously heinous looking weapon. The stainless doesn't even match and it makes the trigger guard look abnormal. You keep showing it and it keeps getting uglier.

I think I need a poll on just how ugly it is. I can't decide between "butt ugly", "glaringly heinous", "garish", or "gonorheal discharge".

Are those words small enough? :puke:

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 23 Sep 2012, 05:00

Rosie O'Donnell ugly?

Post by **Grantness** » 23 Sep 2012, 05:52

gonorrheal discharge! :lmao:

Valorius · Post by **Valorius** » 23 Sep 2012, 07:37

So all i have to do to see you act like a total a$$ is post a picture of my HK? Awesome. Here's another one.

Everyone in HK land loves it:
http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-handgun-t ... -nill.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And so do I!

Best part about the gun is this:

First group i ever shot with it. Corbon 115gr+P Sierra JHP @ 10yds. I was in love instantly.

Wait, ok, got my popcorn. What else ya got for me?

Post by **Rapier1772** » 23 Sep 2012, 07:53

Play nice kids.

If the owner/shooter likes it, that is all that really matters. I've never even seen a P7 except in pictures.

PainKillaX · Post by **PainKillaX** » 23 Sep 2012, 08:38

Rapier1772 wrote:Play nice kids.

If the owner/shooter likes it, that is all that really matters. I've never even seen a P7 except in pictures.

Local shop has like four at any given time. I really wasn't a fan but then again, once upon a time I didn't like ARs either and look at me now

Post by **blueorison** » 23 Sep 2012, 10:25

Valorius wrote:
Wait, ok, got my popcorn. What else ya got for me?

That was my line.

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 23 Sep 2012, 10:40

I thought you eat cookies Blue...

flyingirish04 · Post by **flyingirish04** » 23 Sep 2012, 12:35

Valorius wrote:So all i have to do to see you act like a total a$$ is post a picture of my HK? Awesome. Here's another one.

Everyone in HK land loves it:
http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-handgun-t ... -nill.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And so do I!

Best part about the gun is this:

First group i ever shot with it. Corbon 115gr+P Sierra JHP @ 10yds. I was in love instantly.

Wait, ok, got my popcorn. What else ya got for me?

Tranquilo :laugh: Unlike the HK forum, this forum we are allowed to tell people what we really feel. Not everyone has to like your stuff. If you post pics just to get that, then don't post em here. Sorry.

All that matters is that you like it, and I know a few on that forum didn't like it. I checked. But again, all that matters is you do.

Now the bottom pic, I love that.

The P7 is a great pistol. I have a P7M13 on the way in January I am told. As long as the deal doesn't fall through. A buddy of mine has one, and wants to sell, going through some financial issues. His wife left him when he deployed, tough thing. Anyway, I told him I would pay him exactly what he wanted to pay me back when he got back on his feet. No interest, just that I get to treat the gun as my own until then.

flyingirish04 · Post by **flyingirish04** » 23 Sep 2012, 12:59

Rapier1772 wrote:Play nice kids.

If the owner/shooter likes it, that is all that really matters. I've never even seen a P7 except in pictures.

the bottom pic that in his last post is a great representation of one. Nice weapons. The squeeze cock is a bit weird at first, but I found that after a few mags of shooting it became pretty natural.

Very accurate, and I do like the profile of the weapon too. For some reason, even though I have smaller hands, I like the M13 feel in my hand a bit better. The M10 version feels well to, but has substantial recoil as it is in 40 cal.

PainKillaX · Post by **PainKillaX** » 23 Sep 2012, 13:51

flyingirish04 wrote: squeeze cock

And cue Greenberg :laugh:

flyingirish04 · Post by **flyingirish04** » 23 Sep 2012, 13:57

I was setting him up for sure :laugh:

Post by **blueorison** » 23 Sep 2012, 13:59

Rapier1772 wrote:Play nice kids.

If the owner/shooter likes it, that is all that really matters. I've never even seen a P7 except in pictures.

I've shot the P7.

I like it.

A lot. The gun shoots exactly like my 9mm, of which only one other pistol I've fired, also does. This is due to the design, and is very apparent when you fire the gun.

I think it might make a great pocket pistol; you really can't accidentally fire the gun without squeezing it, first. This would be really difficult to accomplish without direct intent, and it would be fine being pocket-carried. The trigger is also fantastic.

Website · Post by **jgreenberg01** » 23 Sep 2012, 14:21

PainKillaX wrote:
flyingirish04 wrote: squeeze cock
And cue Greenberg :laugh:

flyingirish04 wrote:I was setting him up for sure :laugh:

Great, now I feel pressure to come up with something clever.

I got nuthin though. Well nuthin that's appropriate for the public forum anyway.

"Squeeze cock." Heh heh. He said "squeeze cock."

flyingirish04 · Post by **flyingirish04** » 23 Sep 2012, 14:32

no, :twss:

pwned :laugh:

SHEEPDOG · Post by **SHEEPDOG** » 23 Sep 2012, 15:02

Damn shame. :facepalm:

Valorius · Post by **Valorius** » 24 Sep 2012, 10:26

jgreenberg01 wrote: "Squeeze cock." Heh heh. He said "squeeze cock."

The squeeze cock is, of course, the best part about the gun!

Valorius · Post by **Valorius** » 24 Sep 2012, 10:31

flyingirish04 wrote: The P7 is a great pistol. I have a P7M13 on the way in January I am told.

Have you ever held one before? They're very rare so most people, even P7 people, have never held one. The M13 has a grip like a 2x4. It loses all the wonderful ergonomic feel of the single stack P7 and P7M8.

BTW, the pix in my last post are after and before. Same gun.

I had a P7 M8 and the PSP. The PSP outshot the M8 head to head, so i sold the M8, even though they are worth 2x as much. After owning both and holding them side by side, I really don't like the look of the M series guns. The truly huge trigger guard makes the guns look very ungainly IMO.

toyslr · Post by **toyslr** » 24 Sep 2012, 11:14

Apparently they can be a religous experience, NO one can agree on sh!t!

flyingirish04 · Post by **flyingirish04** » 24 Sep 2012, 11:40

Valorius wrote:
flyingirish04 wrote: The P7 is a great pistol. I have a P7M13 on the way in January I am told.
Have you ever held one before? They're very rare so most people, even P7 people, have never held one. The M13 has a grip like a 2x4. It loses all the wonderful ergonomic feel of the single stack P7 and P7M8.

BTW, the pix in my last post are after and before. Same gun.

I had a P7 M8 and the PSP. The PSP outshot the M8 head to head, so i sold the M8, even though they are worth 2x as much. After owning both and holding them side by side, I really don't like the look of the M series guns. The truly huge trigger guard makes the guns look very ungainly IMO.

I disagree. I have shot plenty of P7s. I had a small collection of them. And your chums on the HKPRO site wouldn't agree. Since you cited them.

The P7M13 has the best ergos of the lot IMO, my favorite. Slightly longer and higher than a M8. I really felt no difference in the PSP and the M8. They are slightly different. The P7M10 feels nice, but shoots pretty bad IMO. Also the ugliest of the bunch. The K3 shot very very well also, but I never had any time for the 380.

M8s aren't worth twice as much, maybe 300 more, maybe. That is mostly because PSPs are refurbished LEO guns. I actually owned a PSP that had exactly 16 rounds through it. It was a buddy of mine's on Pensacola PD's gun. It was his second of two, and he only shot it once.

That PSP was worth as much as the anniversery M8, and I never shot it because I already had a PSP. I know, because I sold it to the same collector that will be giving me the M13.

Frankly, a M13 is the only one of the lot I would own at this time.

flyingirish04 · Post by **flyingirish04** » 24 Sep 2012, 11:43

Valorius wrote: BTW, the pix in my last post are after and before. Same gun.

Yeah, I know. That is why I made the comment. It looked better before. :thumb:

Post by **blueorison** » 24 Sep 2012, 14:13

Ugh, all this activity over the P7's makes me want one. It's one of the very few guns that I don't feel like I need to have, but would really like to own. It's just outside the practicality bracket, though, which makes it easier for me to discard; it's too heavy to carry, for me. However, most guns are too heavy to carry, for me. When I run or do outdoor sports, it would just fly out. I could get different holster design to remedy that issue, but that would compromise the draw.

Still is a great gun. Good trigger, accurate, etc.

Valorius · Post by **Valorius** » 02 Oct 2012, 17:41

flyingirish04 wrote:
I disagree. I have shot plenty of P7s.

You disagree what? That M13s are very rare? They fetch in the vicinity of $1800-2000 regularly. Because they're rare.

I had a small collection of them. And your chums on the HKPRO site wouldn't agree. Since you cited them.

You had a small collection of what? P7s? M13s?

I think if you started a poll on HKPRO asking if the single stack guns have significantly better ergonomic feel than the doublestack versions, the single stack would win in a landslide. The M13 is significantly fatter around the grip. It broke my heart the first time i held one, because i had lusted hard for one right up until the very moment i picked one up for the first time. :-/

M8s aren't worth twice as much, maybe 300 more, maybe

I paid $500 for my grade B PSP. I sold my M8 for $1200.

nrv216 · Post by **nrv216** » 06 Oct 2012, 21:01

http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/semi4 ... ead=252111" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So these are like really rare or something :skep: Then someone should buy this one.

nrv216

flyingirish04 · Post by **flyingirish04** » 09 Oct 2012, 08:57

Valorius wrote:
flyingirish04 wrote:
I disagree. I have shot plenty of P7s.
You disagree what? That M13s are very rare? They fetch in the vicinity of $1800-2000 regularly. Because they're rare.

Right now you can get one for 1300-1600. People may list for higher, but they aren't getting that unless they are nickel unfired versions, then they can get 1800-2000.

But that wasn't what I was disputing. They are rare-ish. I disagreed on the feel of them. Do yourself a favor and read before posting on what someone posted. It is very clear what I was referring to. :facepalm:

Valorius wrote:
flyingirish04 wrote: I had a small collection of them. And your chums on the HKPRO site wouldn't agree. Since you cited them.
You had a small collection of what? P7s? M13s? .

If you followed that rule stated previously, you would see that my collection was of various P7s. Specifically PSP, P7M8, P7M10, P7M13, and even kept a P7K3 in 380 with a 22LR conversion for a while, though it was never really mine (a buddy of mine's gun that I had while he was deployed) :thumb:

Valorius wrote:I think if you started a poll on HKPRO asking if the single stack guns have significantly better ergonomic feel than the doublestack versions, the single stack would win in a landslide. The M13 is significantly fatter around the grip. It broke my heart the first time i held one, because i had lusted hard for one right up until the very moment i picked one up for the first time. :-/.

Polls? I love polls, do that!! Never can have enough polls!!! :lmao:

Valorius wrote:
flyingirish04 wrote: M8s aren't worth twice as much, maybe 300 more, maybe
I paid $500 for my grade B PSP. I sold my M8 for $1200.

Then you got a deal, because they go for $750 pretty consistantly on the way low end and more like $900 on the high. Also, $1200 is a higher price for a standard M8, especially if it is less than 90%, which most are.

One M8 sold last month at my local shop in Fargo for $1125, but it was a mint gun, fired only once by owner that was a collector as well.

Listen, its ok that you like your gun the way it is. You don't need to get all huffed up because I think it is an abomination. I like my P7s in factory condition is all. I think they are works of art that way, that is why I had a bit of a collection of them. That's me.

Just don't post a ridiculous 'religious experience' post on this forum and expect to not get some honest feedback. :cya:

flyingirish04 · Post by **flyingirish04** » 09 Oct 2012, 09:00

nrv216 wrote:http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/semi4 ... ead=252111

So these are like really rare or something :skep: Then someone should buy this one.

nrv216

I am guessing that is a refurbed PSP. A lot of them around right now. That is a standard price for one in about 60, maybe 75% condition. Still very decent shooters.

Post by **Rapier1772** » 15 Dec 2012, 19:25

Valorius wrote:

OH MY GOD.
THIS HAPPENED TODAY.

The university shooting club had a shoot today and only a few showed up. But one who did is:
ROTC graduate, recently commissioned officer, will be defending our country/rights for next 6 years
Also just got a Master's Degree
And she's a former marine sniper's GF (he taught her to shoot).

She wanted to shoot a handgun for one of the stages so I offered to let her use my H&K .40 USP.
"There's a mag, here's the ammo. Load up & see what you can do." I knew she had shot before although not with me.
I'm over talking with 2 others & hear her say, "It's jammed."
She hadn't fired a shot yet, the ammo was my reloads but I knew they fit.
I go over, transfer the gun to me, & look. OMFG! The slide won't close because the chambered round is backwards! As are all the other rounds she loaded.
Now, I can sort of understand one round being backwards but the whole mag?

I can't say anything except "Oh my God" over & over. She was not trying to make a funny, she hadn't even heard of this H&K joke before today, she was dead serious & couldn't figure out why it wasn't working. She made no excuses, & just said "shut up!" everytime I said OMG.

This is the 2nd time someone has done something with that gun which make me want to give them a high five right in the face - with a truck. The other time, an army veteran was trying to impress his gal & loaded 9mm in it (recall it's a .40). It fired fine but wouldn't eject. Just as I was heading over he got it loose & he chambered the next round. I noticed the shell was oddly shaped & picked it up. WTF?!?!

I think I am going to quit letting others shoot it. I don't want to see what someone will do with it next.

Post by **blueorison** » 15 Dec 2012, 21:47

Won't be the first or last.

Gun people are people who shoot or own guns. They don't magically become smart or change if they weren't, before.

I salute her for her service, and that she has a masters degree.

Glad you had a funny moment, today. A good laugh is always healthy. :thumb:

Post by **Cyberfly** » 15 Dec 2012, 23:12

I think I have a few rounds of .45GAP in a drawer...can I borrow your pistol?? hehehehe

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