Reloading equipment for 5.7x28mm

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Post by varmitsnightmare » 13 Sep 2014, 20:10

Ok the Hornady cam lock collet puller is worth every penny on light weight bullets. I pulled 50 or so 35 grain leadfree noslers and left hardly any marks. Beats the hell out of my kinetic puller that is rough on the 5.7x28 cases( that now has a bent handle due to tight necks and light bullets). If anyone is on the fence on buying one, get it , works sweet. Should work on 17 cals too, hope I never have to find out ,but I now have the collet if I need it. Works so well , I will be getting 30, 25, and 27 cal collets as well. Again the hornady Cam lock puller is sweet!

Also another plus and a big one that most guys will agree on is,,,, if your bench is inside your house, spare bedroom, basement, den ,whatever, the silent puller is not going to make the wife scream "what in the hell are you doing, go to bed, your keeping the kids awake !" I got that one with the kinetic puller in the garage( under master bedroom, she was not happy)

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Post by Rapier1772 » 14 Sep 2014, 06:42

Same goes if you live in apartment complex. Neighbors wonder what the hell you're building if you do it during the day & if you do it at night, that's just rude & you deserve whatever you get.
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Post by derek1387 » 15 Sep 2014, 07:21

So I am about to dive into reloading the 5.7x28 cartridge. Any updated info on what is best to get for trimming, and dies?

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Post by derek1387 » 15 Sep 2014, 09:34

And sorry for the question. I went through the 10 pages here, and seems like some great info, but a lot of it is also old posts. Just wanted to make sure I have the most up to date before I start loading.

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Post by Old Paul » 09 Dec 2014, 14:32

I checked out the shell holders you show, but they are all the new type, and I still use the old Hollywood single stage press.
Can anyone tell me which of the older, threaded shell holders, to use for the 5.7 cases, that my press uses, or at least what standard case it is based upon, or similar too?

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Post by panzermk2 » 10 Dec 2014, 14:26

25acp is about as close as you're going to get. Since you are using old style system it should be easy to get if you already don't have it.
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Post by Old Paul » 25 Dec 2014, 14:08

In checking around the Internet, I learned that Midway sells an RCBS H Press Shellholder Adapter, #404696, for $19.99, plus SHH, and several reloading companies make the modern shell holder, including the Lyman Shellholder #35 (5.7x28, # 837700, for $7.39, which will fit in to the above adapter, to work in my Hollywood Sr. press.

I also found at least a couple of die sets (2 & 3 Die sets), and a 5.7x28 case length trimer too.

Now if you have an electronic powder despensor, and scale, you should be able to use one of the 5.7 x28 loading book minimum loads (Western Powder Reloading, and Load Data Guide, Edition 5.0) , and work up slowly, without damaging you gun.

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Post by 748 » 25 Dec 2014, 21:17

To trim cases I bought the Trimpro-2 upgrade shell holder for $50.
The Trimpro-2 upgrade replaces the lever and removeable shell holder plates with a universal shell holding chuck.
I haven't used my shell trimmer for several years and after 3 moves I believe all the shell holding plates aside for 223 (the last one installed on there) are lost for good. The universal shell holding chuck is advertised "to hold everything from 338 [something or other] magnum to 5.7x28."

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Post by sledgehammer » 30 Mar 2015, 07:10

Anyone have any opinion on using the RCBS chargemaster as the scale of choice?

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Post by grimmond » 30 Mar 2015, 11:32

I use it and It works perfectly. Buy an additional check weights in different grains to double check it Periodically during use.
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Post by Bazzer69 » 14 Apr 2015, 10:38

panzermk2 wrote:I would avoid LEE. They have been making 5.7 dies lately that are out of spec.
Hang on a minute, Ive just ordered LEE dies based upon your previous recommendations. Now your saying don't buy LEE dies? Should I cancel the order? And what to get now?
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Post by Rapier1772 » 14 Apr 2015, 10:55

He said that last August.
To be fair though, Lee was a leader in making good dies for the 5.7x28mm but then a couple of years ago they changed something, now they aren't so good. If you can cancel the order, I would consider it.
The dies people are recommending now are the CH4D dies.
I have the early Lee dies so I am good to go, I have not tried the CH4D dies.
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Post by jkelley209 » 14 Apr 2015, 11:06

Redding dies are very good too.

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Post by Bazzer69 » 14 Apr 2015, 11:15

I've just ordered the Lee dies. The CH4d seem to have a long lead time.
Sorry, no offence intended.

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Post by panzermk2 » 14 Apr 2015, 16:22

And this is where it started discovering LEE had changed their dies.


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Post by panzermk2 » 14 Apr 2015, 16:26

I also started carrying and recommending CH4D dies after the good results forum members had been having with them.

When more then a few senior forum members had great results with CH4D I ordered a set and started testing them. Based on that additional testing I not only started suggesting using them I started stocking them.


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Post by DoubleJ » 14 Apr 2015, 18:27

grimmond wrote:I use it and It works perfectly. Buy an additional check weights in different grains to double check it Periodically during use.
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Post by Bazzer69 » 14 Apr 2015, 20:04

panzermk2 wrote:I also started carrying and recommending CH4D dies after the good results forum members had been having with them.

When more then a few senior forum members had great results with CH4D I ordered a set and started testing them. Based on that additional testing I not only started suggesting using them I started stocking them.


We are about to put a large order in for them this Wednesday morning. If you want a set and not a long wait ORDER NOW!
Thanks for the heads up, I got a set of dies on order now from you.
Now to find some True Blue!

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Post by jkelley209 » 16 Apr 2015, 08:23

What powder do you prefer Jay?

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Post by panzermk2 » 16 Apr 2015, 10:07

jkelley209 wrote:What powder do you prefer Jay?
Retail it's true blue.

Currently I am importing a custom blend tweaked for the 5.7. It matches PBC673 which was the first powder used for the 5.7 and designed for it. Until now no powder matched it. This does. I may jug it for retail sales but that will be after I have the brass project cleared off my plate.
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Post by jkelley209 » 16 Apr 2015, 11:08

Thanks very much. Did you see the video i did on the Lyman loads ? i did a work up on True Blue but wasn't anywhere near 2000 fps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTM2MswyLgg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by jkelley209 » 16 Apr 2015, 12:59

i've never heard of PBC673 who makes that?

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Post by panzermk2 » 17 Apr 2015, 07:23

jkelley209 wrote:i've never heard of PBC673 who makes that?

Wait for it..............PB.



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Post by jkelley209 » 17 Apr 2015, 07:54

WHERE CAN YOU GET IT IN THE US JAY? AND WHAT DO THE CALL IT HERE?

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Post by panzermk2 » 17 Apr 2015, 14:17

You can't in anyway get it, you can't import it, You can't even get to look visit the factory and look where it could be made.


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Post by Bazzer69 » 17 Apr 2015, 15:11

Are the powder makers trying to " choke" the USA ? Politics ?

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Post by Rapier1772 » 17 Apr 2015, 15:18

Personally I think it's the politics are trying to choke the powder supplies in the US.

However, there have also been actual supply issues not including the ever present hoarding. I think one major manufacturer even had a fire in which gunpowder wouldn't last long :D
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Post by panzermk2 » 17 Apr 2015, 15:18

No they are proprietary powders designed for FNH and under contract can only be made to order and only sold to FNH. This actually very common practice.
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Post by Bazzer69 » 17 Apr 2015, 15:24

FN is a Belgium Euro company , the Euro's mostly hate the USA , they supply NATO who also dislike the USA , yes I know the USA is a member. So it doesn't surprise me they are deliberately restricting supplies to the USA

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Post by blueorison » 17 Apr 2015, 15:24

BUT HOW DO I GET SAME, I NED TO LDE THEM AMMUNTNS
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jkelley209 wrote:Thanks very much. Did you see the video i did on the Lyman loads ? i did a work up on True Blue but wasn't anywhere near 2000 fps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTM2MswyLgg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Not that impressed with PB. Notice the big ding in one of the rounds near the end of the video ?

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Post by panzermk2 » 19 Apr 2015, 13:01

Bazzer69 wrote:
jkelley209 wrote: Not that impressed with PB. Notice the big ding in one of the rounds near the end of the video ?

Really? You have used PBC powder?



A ding in a test round used for that type of testing is irrelevant.
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Post by Bazzer69 » 19 Apr 2015, 13:21

Of course I not used the powder because I don't think it's available to the general public. If I was making a video about my products I would ensure all that was shown was perfect.
Ps what happened to the T6 I ordered?

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PM Me the email address you used too order so I can resend your tracking number.
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Post by satellitedr3ams » 13 Jun 2015, 12:29

Confirmed that it will work with the Newer Trimpro2 Universal Shellholder and it fits tight too. Maybe not as nice as the EA one, but it still works! :thumb:
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Post by Lbaumann » 06 Nov 2015, 16:40

Please help with 40vmax. Accurate #7 powder. How many grains? Also how do fix dies so the neck properly

Tried rcbs ,lee same. Ordered some from Jay at EA
Tried some rounds at 6 g and some would jam and pop up clip
I got a lot of reloading under my belt. Looks like neck problem. Need help pleaseu

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Post by Rapier1772 » 06 Nov 2015, 17:03

First, for which platform are you loading? The FiveseveN, PS90, AR57, something else?
Since you said "pop up clip" I am assuming the PS90 or AR57. (BTW, they're magazines, not clips)

Here are some threads that should cover what you're looking for as far as powder charge. Just pick the one that applies to you firearm. http://www.fivesevenforum.com/search.ph ... mit=Search" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Those threads are a good place to start anyway. Since the author's loads (for the PS90) for #7 went over 7gr and you're popping mags at 6gr, there may be something else going on.

I have no idea what you are trying to ask on this:
Also how do fix dies so the neck properly
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Post by panzermk2 » 09 Nov 2015, 10:21

He is having issues with the sizer die body on his RCBS dies, that is what he is referring to.
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Post by Rapier1772 » 09 Nov 2015, 10:41

Then it's a manufacturer's problem, not much he can do except return it & get a different/better set of dies.
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Post by Lbaumann » 17 Nov 2015, 18:50

Should there be a small gap between barrel and receiver. Took them out and put new fac round in
When I closed the two components togeather. I could see a very small gap (brass)
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Post by shootinbuzzards » 23 Aug 2016, 11:55

I have been loading 5.7 for about 4 years now and produce a variety of nastiness for both the gun range and any varmint that steps in front of my new addition to my PS90 (EOTech laser holographic weapons sight)
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Post by shootinbuzzards » 23 Aug 2016, 11:56

I also have the 5.7 FN . It keeps my PS90 company when out in the wild

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shootinbuzzards wrote:I also have the 5.7 FN . It keeps my PS90 company when out in the wild
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Post by Toaster » 23 Aug 2016, 13:27

I've been reloading old brass for a while and have run into a few problems I felt worth noting.

The RCBS shell holder destroys the rim because it has a lip on it that becomes imprinted in the brass. the Brass is also loose and wobbly in it leading to laquer scraping off one side and bullets seating cocked. In my opinion it makes it fairly unusable.

I have a Redding shell holder thats on the way, should work as it doesnt have the step. Any others experiencing this? Why has no one made a proper shell holder for single stage presses?

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Toaster wrote:I've been reloading old brass for a while and have run into a few problems I felt worth noting.

The RCBS shell holder destroys the rim because it has a lip on it that becomes imprinted in the brass. the Brass is also loose and wobbly in it leading to laquer scraping off one side and bullets seating cocked. In my opinion it makes it fairly unusable.

I have a Redding shell holder thats on the way, should work as it doesnt have the step. Any others experiencing this? Why has no one made a proper shell holder for single stage presses?


Actually one has been made. The company is CH4D. They are some of the best dies I have ever come across. Elite is also carrying the die set from them.
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Post by Toaster » 24 Aug 2016, 14:29

I got the rcBS dies as a gift so I really didnt chose them. I picked up the shell holder at the local store,.

Ill take another look at the CH4d
Item #:40834 $9.28
Item #:40834X $9.28
Difference?

Also anyone know the difference between the 2 piece die set offered on their site and the EA is a 3 piece?

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I got the rcBS dies as a gift so I really didnt chose them. I picked up the shell holder at the local store,.

Ill take another look at the CH4d
Item #:40834 $9.28
Item #:40834X $9.28
Difference?

Also anyone know the difference between the 2 piece die set offered on their site and the EA is a 3 piece?

Thank all

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Post by DoubleJ » 24 Aug 2016, 15:27

I seriously must have lucked out with my Lee dies. Once I put a primer-nipple-channel in the shell holder, they've been nothing but perfect.

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Post by grimmond » 24 Aug 2016, 19:13

The difference between the 2 is that one has a hole in it to eject primers out from. The other is a solid flat bottom which I use when sizing the cases. I deprime in a seperate step then with sizing.
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Toaster wrote:I got the rcBS dies as a gift so I really didnt chose them. I picked up the shell holder at the local store,.

Ill take another look at the CH4d
Item #:40834 $9.28
Item #:40834X $9.28
Difference?
grimmond wrote:The difference between the 2 is that one has a hole in it to eject primers out from. The other is a solid flat bottom which I use when sizing the cases. I deprime in a seperate step then with sizing.

Toaster wrote: Also anyone know the difference between the 2 piece die set offered on their site and the EA is a 3 piece?

Thank all
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XL 650 Reloading equipment for 5.7x28mm

Post by Lekim » 25 Jan 2019, 20:17

Has anyone tried the 5.7x28 conversion kit from AZ-Born; https://az-born.com/ ? I bought a new Dillon XL650 progressive about a year ago. Am in the process of moving everything I can from the Rockchucker and Piggyback over to the new progressive. Don't get to spend a lot of time playing with it so it's been a slow go. I haven't gotten the advertised throughput out of it yet (still tweaking set-ups) but by comparison, it's a dream versus my green gear. Was majorly bummed when I found out Dillon doesn't offer a 5.7 caliber conversion kit for any of their presses. Started looking at some other internet forums and found some older threads where a couple of guys were attempting to prototype their own a few years ago but gave up after a while. Not sure why. Then I happened to come across AZ Born. Looks like a quality product and they've posted some videos on youtube so looks legit. Before I plunk down 150 clams, thought I'd ask the experts here if anyone had seen and tried this "after-market" kit.

Thanks,
Lekim

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Re: Reloading equipment for 5.7x28mm

Post by GONRA » 27 Jan 2019, 17:58

GONRA loads 9mm and .45 ACP SMG ammo on my Dillon.
But one should carefully load ANY 5.7x28mm FN ammo on a SINGLE STAGE PRESS, CAREFULLY WEIGHING POWDER CHARGES, to avoid chambering issues and worse yet - KABOOMS!

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Re: Reloading equipment for 5.7x28mm

Post by FNFbobcat » 01 Nov 2020, 09:29

I ordered a RCBS #29 shell holder (.25 ACP) because supplier listed it as being interchangeable with 5.7x28FN. It is NOT! Too small, had to force 5.7 brass in and had a heck of a time getting it out. Be sure to order items that are 5.7 specific (RCBS #45). Beware of any supplier that lists components as being interchangeable between .25ACP and 5.7x28FN.

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Re: Reloading equipment for 5.7x28mm

Post by bluerev » 10 Dec 2020, 17:46

FNFbobcat wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 09:29
I ordered a RCBS #29 shell holder (.25 ACP) because supplier listed it as being interchangeable with 5.7x28FN. It is NOT! Too small, had to force 5.7 brass in and had a heck of a time getting it out. Be sure to order items that are 5.7 specific (RCBS #45). Beware of any supplier that lists components as being interchangeable between .25ACP and 5.7x28FN.
Damn, I wonder if the Lee #15 holder will cause the same issue..... It says it is for 25 ACP as well. I am thinking about ordering one....

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Re: Reloading equipment for 5.7x28mm

Post by FNFbobcat » 12 Dec 2020, 09:39

I have a Lee #15. Works fine. Some brands are interchangeable, some are not.

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