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FN 5.7x28mm Ammunition Tables

Post by panzermk2wife » 20 Aug 2008, 21:01

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FN 5.7x28mm Ammunition Tables

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Here are the velocities, projectile weights, and resulting muzzle energies of the 5.7x28mm ammunition types when fired from the P90, PS90, and Five-seveN, along with some other more basic data that people new to the 5.7 should find helpful.



Info Tables for the 5.7x28mm Ammunition


Muzzle velocity:

|---------P90---------|----------PS90---------|------FiveseveN----|

SS190 -----(2350 fps)-------------(2600 fps)-------------(2100 fps)-----
SS191 -----(2350 fps)-------------(2600 fps)-------------(2100 fps)-----
SS192 -----(2350 fps)-------------(2600 fps)-------------(2100 fps)-----
SB193 -----(1000 fps)----------------------------------------------------
T194 ------(2350 fps)--------------(2600 fps)-------------(2100 fps)-----
SS195 -----(2350 fps)-------------(2600 fps)-------------(2100 fps)-----
NEW SS195-(2220.5)---------------(1470.5)--------------(1970.5)-------
SS196 -----(1800 fps)-------------(1950 fps)-------------(1550 fps)-----
SS197 -----(1950 fps)-------------(2100 fps)-------------(1675 fps)-----
SS198 -----(2500 fps)-----------------------------------(2200 fps)----





Projectile weight:

SS190 -----------------32 grains (2.09 grams)-----------
SS191 -----------------32 grains (2.09 grams)------------
SS192 -----------------27 grains (1.81 grams)------------
SB193 -----------------55 grains (3.55 grams)------------
T194 ------------------27 grains (1.81 grams)------------
SS195 -----------------27 grains (1.81 grams)------------
SS196 -----------------40 grains (2.58 grams)------------
SS197 -----------------40 grains (2.58 grams)------------
SS198 -----------------27 grains (1.81 grams)------------





Muzzle energy:

|---------------P90-------|----------PS90---------|------FiveseveN----|

SS190 ----(390 ft. lbs)--------------(480 ft. lbs)------------(315 ft. lbs)---
SS191 ----(390 ft. lbs)--------------(480 ft. lbs)------------(315 ft. lbs)---
SS192 ----(345 ft. lbs)--------------(420 ft. lbs)------------(275 ft. lbs)---
SB193 ----(120 ft. lbs)--------------------------------------------------
T194 -----(345 ft. lbs)--------------(420 ft. lbs)------------(275 ft. lbs)---
SS195 ----(345 ft. lbs)---------------(420 ft. lbs)------------(275 ft. lbs)---
SS196 ----(290 ft. lbs)--------------(340 ft. lbs)------------(215 ft. lbs)---
SS197 ----(340 ft. lbs)---------------(390 ft. lbs)------------(250 ft. lbs)---
SS198-------------------------------------------------------------------





Average penetration depth in 10% ballistic gelatin:

|---------P90-------|---------PS90---------|-----FiveseveN----|

SS190 ---(12 inches)----------------------------------(9 inches)----
SS191 ---(12 inches)----------------------------------(9 inches)----
SS192 ---(12 inches)----------------------------------(9 inches)----
SB193 --------------------------------------------------------------
T194 ----(12 inches)----------------------------------(9 inches)----
SS195 ---(12 inches)----------------------------------(9 inches)----
SS196 ---------------------------------------------------------------
SS197 --------------------------(16 inches)----------(10 inches)---
SS198--------------------------------------------------------------





Projectile type/behavior:

SS190 ---------------FMJ, Tumbles (no deformation)-----------
SS191 ---------------Tracer FMJ, Tumbles (no deformation)-----
SS192 ---------------JHP, Tumbles (no deformation)-------------
SB193 ---------------Subsonic FMJBT (Sierra Game King)--------
T194 ----------------JHP, Tumbles (no deformation)-------------
SS195 ---------------JHP, Tumbles (no deformation)-------------
SS196 ---------------V-MAX, Expands with fragmentation--------
SS197 ---------------V-MAX, Expands with fragmentation--------
SS198-----------------JHP, Tumbles (no deformation)-------------
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Re: FN 5.7x28mm Ammunition Tables

Post by panzermk2wife » 20 Aug 2008, 21:02

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Identification:

SS190 ---------------(Plain, black, or black-on-white tip)-------
L191 ---------------(Red or red-on-black tip)------------------
SS192 ---------------(Plain hollow tip)---------------------------
SB193 ---------------(White tip)----------------------------------
T194 ----------------(Green hollow tip)--------------------------
SS195 ---------------(Plain hollow tip)---------------------------
SS196 ---------------(Red-tip V-MAX)----------------------------
SS197 ---------------(Blue-tip V-MAX)---------------------------
SS198----------------(Green hollow point)-----------------------





Abbreviations:

SS190AP -----------------(Armor Piercing)------------------
SS195LF -----------------(Lead Free)------------------------
SS196SR -----------------(Sporting Round)------------------
SS197SR -----------------(Sporting Round)------------------
SS198LF------------------(Lead Free)------------------------





Date of Introduction:

SS190 ---------------------(1994)------------------------
SS191 ----------------------------------------------------
SS192 ---------------------(2002)------------------------
SB193 ---------------------(1994)------------------------
T194 ------------------------------------------------------
SS195 ---------------------(2005)------------------------
SS196 ---------------------(2005)------------------------
SS197 --------------------(2006)------------------------
SS198----------------------(2008)-----------------------





Availability:

SS190 ------------------(LE/MIL)---------------------------------
SS191 ------------------(LE/MIL)----------------------------------
SS192 ------------------(Discontinued 2005)----------------------
SB193 ------------------(LE/MIL)----------------------------------
T194 -------------------(Discontinued 2002)----------------------
SS195 ------------------(Available)--------------------------------
SS196 ------------------(Discontinued 2006)----------------------
SS197 ------------------(Available)--------------------------------
SS198-------------------(LE/MIL)----------------------------------





Comparison of the 5.7x28mm and .22 WMR:

|--------------Weight/Velocity-----------|----------Energy----------|--------Barrel Length----|

SS195 |---------(27 gr @ 2600 fps)----------|--------(420 ft. lbs)------|---------(16 inches)------|
22WMR |--------(40 gr @ 1900 fps)----------|--------(320 ft. lbs)------|---------(24 inches)------|




As seen in the above comparison, the 5.7x28mm is (even out of a shorter barrel) ballistically quite a bit ahead of the .22 WMR despite often being compared to it by skeptics. I calculated the muzzle energies based on the bullet weights and velocities above, using the handy tool in this link.

Take note that the L191 is also often referred to as the "SS191"; similarly, the SB193 is sometimes referred to as the "SS193". As for the velocity of the SS190, SS191, SS192, and SS195 out of the Five-seveN pistol, I have heard individual chronographed figures ranging from less than 2000 fps to 2250 fps, and thus decided to list it in between those at 2100 fps. Regarding visible differences between the SS192 and SS195, the latter has a silver-colored primer while the former does not. I hope this was helpful; thank-you to all who contributed bits of information.


(Tables Last Edited 3/20/08)
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Re: FN 5.7x28mm Ammunition Tables

Post by panzermk2wife » 20 Aug 2008, 21:03

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SS190 energies when fired out of the Five-seveN:

Muzzle |-----------(320 ft. lbs)-----------|
50m |-------------(297 ft. lbs)-----------|
100m |------------(227 ft. lbs)-----------|
200m |------------(126 ft. lbs)-----------|
300m |------------(74 ft. lbs)-------------|
400m |------------(58 ft. lbs)-------------|

The numbers came from an FN 5.7mm Weapon System FAQ.
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Re: FN 5.7x28mm Ammunition Tables

Post by WARWOLF » 22 Aug 2008, 00:32

FOR COMPARISON, ALTHOUGH IT'S MISSING THE NEW HOLLOW POINT GREEN TIP SS198 ON THE TOP PIC AND IT'S MISSING SOME ELITE AMMUNITION ON THE BOTTOM PICS....LOL (HINT, HINT :cya: )


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Re: FN 5.7x28mm Ammunition Tables

Post by panzermk2 » 10 Nov 2008, 18:03

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Post by f3rr37 » 10 Nov 2008, 18:26

WARWOLF wrote:FOR COMPARISON, ALTHOUGH IT'S MISSING THE NEW HOLLOW POINT GREEN TIP SS198 ON THE TOP PIC AND IT'S MISSING SOME ELITE AMMUNITION ON THE BOTTOM PICS....LOL (HINT, HINT :cya: )
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Re: FN 5.7x28mm Ammunition Tables

Post by Vortec MAX » 20 Nov 2008, 06:59

I found a couple of links that may add to this post.

Military Ammunition
http://www.fnhusa1.com/PDF/FN_MIL_ammunition.pdf

Civilian Ammo
http://www.fnhusa1.com/PDF/FNH08ammunition.pdf

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Re: FN 5.7x28mm Ammunition Tables

Post by Vortec MAX » 27 Nov 2008, 22:58

I chronographed some factory ammo yesterday. For the SS195, I got numbers that are considerably different than what is posted here.

I used a CED chrono with infrared kit. Elevation was 4,400 feet and temperature was 40 degrees F. Chrono was 6 feet away.

10 Shots of SS195LF
1979
1944
1986
1967
1951
1963
1977
1966
1980
1992

Average 1970.5 FPS
That's 129.5 FPS slower than the stated 2100 FPS


10 Shots of SS197SR
1703
1714
1662
1717
1680
1691
1612
1668
1624
1642

Average 1671.3 FPS
That is very close the the stated 1675 FPS


I also noticed that the point of impact at 25 yards is very different between these two rounds. I sighted in using the SS195LF and got 3 shots into a 1" circle. When I switched to the SS197SR I was waaay low.


Hopefully this data helps.

Mike

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Re: FN 5.7x28mm Ammunition Tables

Post by Tombstone » 21 Feb 2009, 17:39

panzermk2wife wrote:Courtesy of DmL5

FN 5.7x28mm Ammunition Tables

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Here are the velocities, projectile weights, and resulting muzzle energies of the 5.7x28mm ammunition types when fired from the P90, PS90, and Five-seveN, along with some other more basic data that people new to the 5.7 should find helpful.



Info Tables for the 5.7x28mm Ammunition



Average penetration depth in 10% ballistic gelatin:

|---------P90-------|---------PS90---------|-----FiveseveN----|

SS190 ---(12 inches)----------------------------------(9 inches)----
SS191 ---(12 inches)----------------------------------(9 inches)----
SS192 ---(12 inches)----------------------------------(9 inches)----
SB193 --------------------------------------------------------------
T194 ----(12 inches)----------------------------------(9 inches)----
SS195 ---(12 inches)----------------------------------(9 inches)----
SS196 ---------------------------------------------------------------
SS197 --------------------------(16 inches)----------(10 inches)---
SS198--------------------------------------------------------------


These are wonderful tables!

Thank you very much, but I wonder is it possible to get graphical images of the ballistic gelatin test for this ammunition as well as the new spectacular Elite Ammunition?

Seeing these ballistic tests visually always give a much better impression on the projectile behavior.

Thank you for the consideration! :drool:
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Post by jmz5 » 21 Feb 2009, 20:25

Already done.

http://fivesevenforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=57" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Tombstone » 21 Feb 2009, 21:58

jmz5 wrote:Already done.

http://fivesevenforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=57" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://fivesevenforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1502" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: FN 5.7x28mm Ammunition Tables

Post by panzertruppe » 21 Sep 2009, 05:27

Thnx for this intel,

Very good stuff for us PS 90 rooks...

Many thnx again.

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Post by Grantness » 21 Sep 2009, 06:53

oh no, not another panzer! haha j/k :p

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Re: FN 5.7x28mm Ammunition Tables

Post by ryker » 21 Jan 2010, 13:36

On data comparisons. The energy and velocity of the 5.7 at normal pistol ranges compare to that of the rifle 5.56mm at 3-400 yards.

So when people say your shooting a 22mag just refer to the fact the fiveseven is = to a m16 at 300 yards. :thumb:

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Post by fatherfoof » 21 Jan 2010, 16:01

Grant, you're right. I think we're up to four now. :laugh:
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Re: FN 5.7x28mm Ammunition Tables

Post by murphies_finest » 23 Apr 2010, 06:23

Vortec MAX wrote:I chronographed some factory ammo yesterday. For the SS195, I got numbers that are considerably different than what is posted here.

I used a CED chrono with infrared kit. Elevation was 4,400 feet and temperature was 40 degrees F. Chrono was 6 feet away.

10 Shots of SS195LF
1979
1944
1986
1967
1951
1963
1977
1966
1980
1992

Average 1970.5 FPS
That's 129.5 FPS slower than the stated 2100 FPS


10 Shots of SS197SR
1703
1714
1662
1717
1680
1691
1612
1668
1624
1642

Average 1671.3 FPS
That is very close the the stated 1675 FPS


I also noticed that the point of impact at 25 yards is very different between these two rounds. I sighted in using the SS195LF and got 3 shots into a 1" circle. When I switched to the SS197SR I was waaay low.


Hopefully this data helps.

Mike

Im really curious now I will shoot both this weekend using my chrony and see whose numbers I duplicate or come closer to, I will fire from the ps90 rifle and as soon as i get my pistol back ill shoot it form there also, I will do a 10 shot group like mikes also.
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Re: FN 5.7x28mm Ammunition Tables

Post by mikeb1031 » 06 Feb 2011, 12:36

Very helpful.....

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Re: FN 5.7x28mm Ammunition Tables

Post by ddouglas » 06 Feb 2011, 12:59

Is anyone putting all this data together in one place? The Wiki would be great a place to put it. Where is Grant?

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Post by blueorison » 07 Mar 2011, 00:25

All the data is in one place...this thread. How may I assist you, DDouglas, was there a solid source you wanted placed within the wiki for just the velocity tables, or round characteristics? Let me know how I can help. Thanks :)

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Re: FN 5.7x28mm Ammunition Tables

Post by Buffman » 09 Mar 2011, 22:37

Can anyone shed light on the last 5 rounds in WarWolf's picture?

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