R&R Weapon Systems 5.7x28 ammo
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R&R Weapon Systems 5.7x28 ammo
I was browsing 5.7 ammo on Gun Broker, and saw listings for ammunition produced by a company called 'R&R Weapon Systems'.
They have 0 feedback, and searches on Google and this forum turned up nothing, so I don't have any info on them.
I E-mailed the seller through GB, and promptly recieved a polite and professional E-Mail from the seller with links to their website and verious social media pages. He says they are new, and just haven't done a lot of buisness yet...
They seem legit to me, but I'm very hesitant to be the first one to jump. Does anyone here have experience with them, or know who these guys are?
*Edit* I'm not a bot, spammer, or affiliated with these guys in any way - look at my profile, and you will see I've been registered here for 3 years.
http://www.rrweaponsystems.com/
http://www.facebook.com/rrweaponsystems
http://www.twitter.com/rrweaponsystems
They have 0 feedback, and searches on Google and this forum turned up nothing, so I don't have any info on them.
I E-mailed the seller through GB, and promptly recieved a polite and professional E-Mail from the seller with links to their website and verious social media pages. He says they are new, and just haven't done a lot of buisness yet...
They seem legit to me, but I'm very hesitant to be the first one to jump. Does anyone here have experience with them, or know who these guys are?
*Edit* I'm not a bot, spammer, or affiliated with these guys in any way - look at my profile, and you will see I've been registered here for 3 years.
http://www.rrweaponsystems.com/
http://www.facebook.com/rrweaponsystems
http://www.twitter.com/rrweaponsystems
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Say it isn't so...panzermk2 wrote:Contact email,
ryan@rrweaponsystems.com
What are the odds?
*** EDIT: his twitter account says he's in Madison, WI.
Odds - they seem pretty good.
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Yep he is still in WI. So odds are good.
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Seems like you know both know this person then.
Color me Ignorant, but I don't know Ryan from Adam. Would you educate me?
Color me Ignorant, but I don't know Ryan from Adam. Would you educate me?
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Let's just say that this is a company that it's probably be best to stay away from. IMHO of course.
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Thanks...
I'll spend my money on SS198 then.
I'll spend my money on SS198 then.
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The Whois says the website was registered this year from Kirkland WA
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Tried to do a basic search but the damn ATF website does not make it easy to look up an FFL by their name.
Funny how they have copied my rounds. Just went with bullets they could get.
Soon my in house brass will be flowing and all of this will be mute.
Fun factoid though, currently all EA ammo NIB, not conversion, is being loaded on 100% virgin brass that has NEVER had a bullet in it or anything else.
Funny how they have copied my rounds. Just went with bullets they could get.
Soon my in house brass will be flowing and all of this will be mute.
Fun factoid though, currently all EA ammo NIB, not conversion, is being loaded on 100% virgin brass that has NEVER had a bullet in it or anything else.
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Dang Jay, you always have too much fun with that tease of your brass. Out with it I say. Lets have some play time with your rounds. :p
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Waiting on the cups.
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This does not sound like Ryan H from the contact reply I received
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Hey the more people manufacturing the 5.7x28mm the better it brings the demand down and there for the price as well!!! I just hope someone will give it a try and see how they are.
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Yes & no. The person to whom they are referring has proven to be a liar & a cheat in the past.
I am not saying this R&R company is being run by, or is affiliated with, the same person.
Some of the posts are merely pointing out that there are some similarities which warrant caution/investigation.
If R&R is not affiliated with that person, then I wish them the best.
If they are, I hope they sever any/all connections with him ASAP before it bites them in keister too.
I am not saying this R&R company is being run by, or is affiliated with, the same person.
Some of the posts are merely pointing out that there are some similarities which warrant caution/investigation.
If R&R is not affiliated with that person, then I wish them the best.
If they are, I hope they sever any/all connections with him ASAP before it bites them in keister too.
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??? Elaborate, please.panzermk2 wrote:Waiting on the cups.
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The owner's name is Ryan Doll. I mean totally possible it's an alias but I doubt it.
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cups are just that. Small cup like units that are feed into a press andOldbindlestiff wrote:??? Elaborate, please.panzermk2 wrote:Waiting on the cups.
over a series of stampings are extruded into shell cases.
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I have never given much thought to how a shell casing is actually formed, other than thinking that they are all extruded and formed as a single piece.
Thanks. :thumb:
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Oldbindlestiff wrote:I have never given much thought to how a shell casing is actually formed, other than thinking that they are all extruded and formed as a single piece.
Thanks. :thumb:
Check this out. The cup and extrusion process is the same for cartridges cases and bullet jackets.
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Thanks again, Jay. I'd be embarrassed to admit to the number of cases that I have reloaded with only a passing thought to how they are made! :clap:
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Nice New (to me) 5.7 factory loads!!!
They have 3 loads and growing stronger! Finally some more choices. :clap:
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Hmmm a moly-coated 28gr JHP....
Never seen that before.
Never seen that before.
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They did use a good bullet Blue
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Hello everyone. My name is Ryan Richard Doll, owner of RRWS, and I figured I would chime in on this whole situation of my first name being negatively associated with someone else. I have never heard of a "Ryan H" nor is RRWS associated with anyone else besides myself and my business partner Robert (hence R&R).
Do I need to be concerned about this other person?
Do I need to be concerned about this other person?
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I doubt you need to worry about him but some of us wanted to make sure it wasn't him before considering the purchase of any ammo. Your geographical location is close enough to his to warrant a bit of concern that it might have been the same person.
The "other Ryan" being referred to in this thread used to be associated with this forum and EA; saying that the separation was a "bad split" is quite the understatement.
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The "other Ryan" being referred to in this thread used to be associated with this forum and EA; saying that the separation was a "bad split" is quite the understatement.
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That's good to know, Rob & I were a little worried. I can see how there would be some concern... Guess we should have checked the forums sooner.
Thanks for the welcome, we are glad to be a member.
Thanks for the welcome, we are glad to be a member.
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Its good to have you. The more manufactures the better. Welcome to the forum!!! and best if luck with your business. :thumb:RRWS wrote:That's good to know, Rob & I were a little worried. I can see how there would be some concern... Guess we should have checked the forums sooner.
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Welcome!
Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity.
The shooter will always matter more than the gear ever will.
Stop relying on others to do the work for you.
Shoot more, worry less.
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Stop relying on others to do the work for you.
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Just a quick comment here on RRWS.
I just purchased 2 boxes of their IS132D.
It showed out of stock on their website and I contacted them by Face Book.
Immediate response and friendly advice and guidance.
Promised shipping tomorrow and I would expect from our conversation that I will not be disappointed.
So far I am well satisfied.
I just purchased 2 boxes of their IS132D.
It showed out of stock on their website and I contacted them by Face Book.
Immediate response and friendly advice and guidance.
Promised shipping tomorrow and I would expect from our conversation that I will not be disappointed.
So far I am well satisfied.
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I also have had conversations with Ryan and purchased a box of the IS130D ammo.
He also threw in 3 other sample rounds of his other 5.7 ammo (IS129D, IS132D and IS144D) to try but have not as yet had a chance to shoot any of it. That will be remedied this Saturday!
Ryan tells me the 130D has a very similar load to the SS190 with a 30gr. projectile but has a fragmenting tip instead of the steel tip due to legal reasons. A few of the sample rounds sent to me looked to be a pretty mean looking hollow points. All were moly coated.
Very pleased with him and the customer service.
He also threw in 3 other sample rounds of his other 5.7 ammo (IS129D, IS132D and IS144D) to try but have not as yet had a chance to shoot any of it. That will be remedied this Saturday!
Ryan tells me the 130D has a very similar load to the SS190 with a 30gr. projectile but has a fragmenting tip instead of the steel tip due to legal reasons. A few of the sample rounds sent to me looked to be a pretty mean looking hollow points. All were moly coated.
Very pleased with him and the customer service.
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Just a heads up to my fellow FsN forum members. R&R is currently taking orders for their IS130D 5.7x28 ammo which Ryan tells me will be ready for shipping on 2/16 and that it is going fast.
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I purchased some of RR's ammo.
Will run it through the IIIA/clay testing.
Will run it through the IIIA/clay testing.
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The shooter will always matter more than the gear ever will.
Stop relying on others to do the work for you.
Shoot more, worry less.
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Just received my 5 Boxes of R&R today. I purchased 1 - 20 round box of each. I hope to test them this week and will purchase more for carry ammo only. Ryan was great do deal with.
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