American Eagle 40gr 5.7x28mm FMJ :)
American Eagle 40gr 5.7x28mm FMJ :)
This is still FNH brass (headstamp 2012).
PS90 tests coming soon. It seems to get almost as good as SS197SR velocities from the PS90.
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Re: American Eagle 40gr 5.7x28mm FMJ :)
Anyone know what kind of bullet that is? Is it available as a component or only as part of this cartridge? what kind of prices are we talking about? It looks a lot like a FB Matchking or Gameking...but its not a hollow point.
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Shades of SS196 all over again. Five percent less velocity and 10 percent less energy than SS197
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It would have to be cheap and widely available to make it worthwhile if only for plinking... That or if I can't find that particular bullet anywhere for reloading.
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Thanks for the video.
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Esteves wrote:Shades of SS196 all over again. Five percent less velocity and 10 percent less energy than SS197
SS196 is still almost 100 fps slower than this.
I overpaid for it, but considering SS197SR is like $25/box right now, $24.xx/box for this will do as plinking ammo. I'd really like to see this hit the projected $18.99/box or less, and find it at WM or something in the future.
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Thanks for the info Buffman. I've never chrono'ed anything out my PS90, I should check into that, now I'm curious.
Did you get a chance to check accuracy? (Don't need vid just what you think)
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I could care less if it is underpowered... daddy needs some plinking rounds!
thx for the info.
thx for the info.
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Thanks for the report. It looks to be just a hair shy of the SS197SR round velocity but probably not enough to make a difference.
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I choron'd SS197 at an average of 1709fps which is 80fps or about 5% faster.blaster1 wrote:Thanks for the report. It looks to be just a hair shy of the SS197SR round velocity but probably not enough to make a difference.
I should make a big difference if you are talking about SD/HD, especially because of the bullet itself. FMJ's are much more likely to over-penetrate as compared to the VMAX bullet. It seems to me that the American Eagle flavor is best suited for plinking while the SS197 can make a reasonable SD/HD round.
Full disclosure: I only use SS197 for plinking. I only use EA's loads for carry/SD/HD, specifically the S4M.
EDIT: Thanks Buffman for the video. Any plans to shoot clay, meat, etc. to see what the round does?
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It would be nice to have a COTS plinking round available. My other comment was really just pointing out the obvious: that it's a move backwards from a performance point of view.Buffman wrote:SS196 is still almost 100 fps slower than this.
I overpaid for it, but considering SS197SR is like $25/box right now, $24.xx/box for this will do as plinking ammo. I'd really like to see this hit the projected $18.99/box or less, and find it at WM or something in the future.
And thanks for your efforts! [Where did my manners go, that should have been the first thing I typed?]
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I chronon'd SS197SR at an avg of 1662fps from the FsN and 2047fps from the PS90 so didn't see the difference as significant compared to your data.jgreenberg01 wrote:I choron'd SS197 at an average of 1709fps which is 80fps or about 5% faster.blaster1 wrote:Thanks for the report. It looks to be just a hair shy of the SS197SR round velocity but probably not enough to make a difference.
I should make a big difference if you are talking about SD/HD, especially because of the bullet itself. FMJ's are much more likely to over-penetrate as compared to the VMAX bullet. It seems to me that the American Eagle flavor is best suited for plinking while the SS197 can make a reasonable SD/HD round.
Full disclosure: I only use SS197 for plinking. I only use EA's loads for carry/SD/HD, specifically the S4M.
EDIT: Thanks Buffman for the video. Any plans to shoot clay, meat, etc. to see what the round does?
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SS197 performance can vary greatly from lot to lot (and even in some cases rounds from within the same box!). On average I get 1700fps+.
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I've chrono'd SS197SR as low as 1686 average in 35F weather. I've noticed that with the 5.7 rounds I've fired, they seem very temperature stable. I've shot SS198LF at 2111 fps in 35F weather, and when retesting yesterday, in 97F weather, they were no faster.
SS197SR as mentioned is lot dependent. Fast I've gotten SS197SR to average is 1728 fps.
SS197SR as mentioned is lot dependent. Fast I've gotten SS197SR to average is 1728 fps.
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Didn't really check accuracy, but I was getting my typical on par results. I'll have to go back out with a targetRapier1772 wrote:Thanks for the info Buffman. I've never chrono'ed anything out my PS90, I should check into that, now I'm curious.
Did you get a chance to check accuracy? (Don't need vid just what you think)
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That's a TMJ!
Was it intact enough to reload?
Where did you get the AE's?
Was it intact enough to reload?
Where did you get the AE's?
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I would like to know who is making that bullet.
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I'd take a WAG and bet on Speer.
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Esteves wrote:I'd take a WAG and bet on Speer.
I would have to see a pulled bullet in person to compare it. It would be nice if they started selling it. I have wanted a lighter FMJ for a long time.
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Mister Freeze wrote:That's a TMJ!
Was it intact enough to reload?
Where did you get the AE's?
you probably could. I wouldn't think this would be a typical plated TMJ as I thought copper plating wasn't rated for high velocity (like over 1300 fps), and was why it was reserved for common pistol calibers..
I my case from HK Specialist. They were the first I've seen so far to actually have (well had) some in stock. Someone on FNforum said his local shop had some as well.
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If you want I could send you a 10-20 of thempanzermk2 wrote:Esteves wrote:I'd take a WAG and bet on Speer.
I would have to see a pulled bullet in person to compare it. It would be nice if they started selling it. I have wanted a lighter FMJ for a long time.
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Buffman wrote:If you want I could send you a 10-20 of thempanzermk2 wrote:Esteves wrote:I'd take a WAG and bet on Speer.
I would have to see a pulled bullet in person to compare it. It would be nice if they started selling it. I have wanted a lighter FMJ for a long time.
Just 2 or 3 would be nice. I would want to section one of them.
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If this is indeed a unique bullet, I'm gonna have to buy some of these rounds to pull and reload... I'd be willing to bet I can do better than 1650fps
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Buffman wrote:
They look more like copper washed bullets like Berry's instead of actual copper jackets. Interesting.
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They do after shooting them through the door.
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28gr FNH next to it.
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Some 22lr ammo is copper washed. Berry's are copper plated. The thickness difference between the 2 is significant.panzermk2 wrote:
They look more like copper washed bullets like Berry's instead of actual copper jackets. Interesting.
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srt-4_jon wrote:Some 22lr ammo is copper washed. Berry's are copper plated. The thickness difference between the 2 is significant.panzermk2 wrote:
They look more like copper washed bullets like Berry's instead of actual copper jackets. Interesting.
I made that statement BEFORE I had them in hand based on Buffmans's pics.
The jacket and the base are to separate pieces. It's hard to see the seam in the pic.
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What I am saying is that berry's aren't copper washed, they are plated. Cci mini mags are copper washed.
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btw from my test today these go through a level II vest
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I contacted Federal to find a local retailer. According to them, they don't make 5.7x28 in any of their brands.
Please post a pic of the box that I can send to them as my response!We don't make a 5.7x28mm round in any of our brands.
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Nice! We'll see what they say now!
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Well you certainly got me on this one. I had to do some more checking on this and found out we just recently developed that load and started selling this load. It is going to be in 2013 catalog and I am sure that it will then be on-line as well. I am going to forward your e-mail to customer service to see if they can get you to a retailer that may have some of this product. Be aware that there is a significant back order on this product so supplies may be intermittent for awhile.
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HA! Busted. Customer knows more about they sell than they do :laugh:
At least they were willing to accept their mistake & actually check into it
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I am sending you a small care package for being spot on with the 5.7x28.
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Now MF,
you should share with us, what you got in said care package
you should share with us, what you got in said care package
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so who has a link on where to buy this stuff cheap ( :
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Buffman wrote:Now MF,
you should share with us, what you got in said care package
I have to receive it first!
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cheap, no. available, good luck I bought one case from HK specialist and they had 4 cases.
If someone really wants some, I'm not oppossed to offers for a few rounds or something
If someone really wants some, I'm not oppossed to offers for a few rounds or something
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Buffman wrote:Esteves wrote:Shades of SS196 all over again. Five percent less velocity and 10 percent less energy than SS197
SS196 is still almost 100 fps slower than this.
I overpaid for it, but considering SS197SR is like $25/box right now, $24.xx/box for this will do as plinking ammo. I'd really like to see this hit the projected $18.99/box or less, and find it at WM or something in the future.
What info do you have on the $18.99/box price? Is that an MSRP or something I can confirm with Federal?
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It's so exciting that we have a new 5.7 ammo manufacturer. It's even more exciting that they are using a new bullet instead of just copying what is already out there. They actually designed a whole new round. There's a reason that FNH doesn't sell a 5.7 FMJ round to the public. Expect these down in Mexico in short order.
These will out penetrate SS195 (blue) and SS197 in respect to body armor. Am I correct?
These will out penetrate SS195 (blue) and SS197 in respect to body armor. Am I correct?
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That was what was tossed around on a few of the websites that had it in their inventory, but not in stock. No clue if that's MSRP, or whatMister Freeze wrote:Buffman wrote:Esteves wrote:Shades of SS196 all over again. Five percent less velocity and 10 percent less energy than SS197
SS196 is still almost 100 fps slower than this.
I overpaid for it, but considering SS197SR is like $25/box right now, $24.xx/box for this will do as plinking ammo. I'd really like to see this hit the projected $18.99/box or less, and find it at WM or something in the future.
What info do you have on the $18.99/box price? Is that an MSRP or something I can confirm with Federal?
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I will test SS197SR again and see if it will do a level II. Level II was no match for SS195LF either, but I'd have to test it against level IIIA to see if AE TMJ out penetrated it.ShockedNKansas wrote:It's so exciting that we have a new 5.7 ammo manufacturer. It's even more exciting that they are using a new bullet instead of just copying what is already out there. They actually designed a whole new round. There's a reason that FNH doesn't sell a 5.7 FMJ round to the public. Expect these down in Mexico in short order.
These will out penetrate SS195 (blue) and SS197 in respect to body armor. Am I correct?
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Federal makes ss197ShockedNKansas wrote:It's so exciting that we have a new 5.7 ammo manufacturer.
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fiochhi does, federal distributes itsrt-4_jon wrote:Federal makes ss197ShockedNKansas wrote:It's so exciting that we have a new 5.7 ammo manufacturer.
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I'd like to see another manufacturer making 27-35 grain loads with a spitzer boat-tail profile. Even with lower BC's, 27 grain bullets can be safely launched as velocities that allow "battle sight zero" out to 125 yards. Retained KE is less than a nice 40 grain spitzer, but the trajectory is still flatter.
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That was fast!
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Freeze, that's not bad at all considering all you did was make somebody look silly! But seriously, it is nice to know that some of the big dogs still care about their customers. Now, if only they had sent you some of this mysterious 5.7x28 ammo!
BTW thanks for doing all this testing Buffman! I definitely can't wait til (fingers crossed, knock on wood and all that) this stuff is widely available.
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BTW thanks for doing all this testing Buffman! I definitely can't wait til (fingers crossed, knock on wood and all that) this stuff is widely available.
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the catalog they sent is junk: 2012. The 2013 is supposed to list the 5.7x28. Their ballistic data would be nice to compare with real-world results.
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ShockedNKansas wrote:It's so exciting that we have a new 5.7 ammo manufacturer. It's even more exciting that they are using a new bullet instead of just copying what is already out there. They actually designed a whole new round. There's a reason that FNH doesn't sell a 5.7 FMJ round to the public. Expect these down in Mexico in short order.
These will out penetrate SS195 (blue) and SS197 in respect to body armor. Am I correct?
SS197 only made it through 9 layers...
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so anything new with these? probably won't see them for several months
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Federal does have a run planned for late September
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Hopefully that means we will see it at stores (non inflated) couple months after that.Mister Freeze wrote:Federal does have a run planned for late September
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Jay,panzermk2 wrote:28gr FNH next to it.
I don't know why I didn't notice this before. It's obvious from your photos that the AE round is quite a bit shorter than the 28gr FNH round. I though the AE round was taller. As short as it is, there isn't much different from the V-Max is there? In fact, the V-Max might be more reliable when it comes to expansion. This bullet looks like it's going to be one hell of a penetrator, but perhaps behave more like like an ice pick? What do you think?
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Buffmeister, if I may be so bold, I think we need an American Eagle pork shoulder test. We need to see what this biotch does in human simulant. :cya:
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LOL. I did shoot it into water, and from shooting the SS197SR into water, it pertty much acts like an FMJ and didn't expand.. ALthought that's just water, and we know from Jeff's gel tests, SS197SR will expand and fragment..
I could do another piggy test soon. It's been a month. Although I'm not sure what kind of damage it will do unless it hits something hard and expands, but we can see.
I could do another piggy test soon. It's been a month. Although I'm not sure what kind of damage it will do unless it hits something hard and expands, but we can see.
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Hmmm, I forgot you did the water test on the AE. Water should cause a frangible projectile to over expand. Thus, if it didn't expand in water, it sure as heck ain't expanding in pig, unless like you said, it hits bone. It looks like we might have another PenetraTOR round eh? I guess I got a little over excited about this round because for some reason I thought it was a tumbler.Buffman wrote:LOL. I did shoot it into water, and from shooting the SS197SR into water, it pertty much acts like an FMJ and didn't expand.. ALthought that's just water, and we know from Jeff's gel tests, SS197SR will expand and fragment..
I could do another piggy test soon. It's been a month. Although I'm not sure what kind of damage it will do unless it hits something hard and expands, but we can see.
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Tumbler:
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Well if you remember the water test it did seem to yaw at one point and exit the water jug at a higher point then it entered.
I wonder what it would do if we drilled the nose of the bullet out.
I wonder what it would do if we drilled the nose of the bullet out.
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For our purposes, the point of an FMJ is to maintain its integrity and tumble. Drilling out the nose might make it expand more easily, but thats why we already have bullets like the VMax, Varmint Grenade, GameKing, etc... IMO, prob not worth the effort. The only benefit I can think of would be making the bullet lighter. Whether it would go fast enough to be worthwhile is another questionBuffman wrote:Well if you remember the water test it did seem to yaw at one point and exit the water jug at a higher point then it entered.
I wonder what it would do if we drilled the nose of the bullet out.
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where are you finding this american eagle ammo at?
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I found it at HK specialists. However they only had 4 cases when I found it, and after I bought a case it was all gone. According to some that have called Federal you may see this stuff hit more stores in the fall.
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what was the price on it? i looked on federal site and it dont even show up there. i heard it's suppose to be around 16.00 a box of 50
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If it's $16/box it will sell like hotcakes.. I paid $24.xx a box after shipping, but realize the month ago when I bought it SS197SR was nowhere to be found for under $25.50/box. Some have said it may not show up until the 2013 Federal catalog.
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My local range has it for 24.99. I seem to be the only one buying it.
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my local range buys it like 10 cases at a time and always has plenty on hand, price tag says 25.99. i have gotten it for around 23.00 thats the ss195lf round
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For SS195LF, that price is about average. SS197SR is usually quite a bit cheaper, and this new load should be too.Lurkin wrote:my local range buys it like 10 cases at a time and always has plenty on hand, price tag says 25.99. i have gotten it for around 23.00 thats the ss195lf round
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I like your forum name.OrigamiRobot wrote:My local range has it for 24.99. I seem to be the only one buying it.
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whats the name of your local range?OrigamiRobot wrote:My local range has it for 24.99. I seem to be the only one buying it.
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I might have to have a look in the local area to see if I can find some. I was just looking on line and talking to a friend that has a PS90 about this round. I look forward to the level II test buffman!
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Level II test already done. Went right through it
Check youtube
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awesome! how about level III?
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I did IIIA, no penetration from the FSN
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Firepower, Inc. Don't buy all my ammo!Lurkin wrote:whats the name of your local range?
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LOL, i wont.OrigamiRobot wrote:Firepower, Inc. Don't buy all my ammo!Lurkin wrote:whats the name of your local range?
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As to the availability of this ammo, I spoke to Roger Cope of Cope's Distribution yesterday for a few minutes. In summary, he believes that this ammo will be available in large quantities around November 2012 and more or les $19~$22/box. I hope to have some soon...
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My local range has it in stock for $22/50. I've got another shop that I actually prefer to buy ammo at though, and the owner didn't even know this stuff was out. He checked with his distributor and found out he can get it for $17/50. So it's just a matter of mark-up after that. I think he said his distributor had the MSRP listed as $24.99. He's the local FNH distributor, so I definitely made a friend by letting him know about this.
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Just tried this ammo out of both a PS-90 and a Five-Seven. Consistent accuracy and 0 problems feeding. Definitely good enough for range ammo.
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I shot some last month. Definitely not a issue with reliability, went through 200 rounds at the range. Seems to go down range quite well.
I believe that they were charging 23 bucks a box. Not a bad price. I asked them about a bulk order and they told me that they would get back to me with bunk prices.
Also if you check out on line you can see that people were only asking under 19 bucks or so a box. I would love to start seeing 5.7 ammo go for under 20 bucks a box. It would mean a lot more shooting time for me at the range.
Lets hope that American Eagle kicks up the production! :clap:
I believe that they were charging 23 bucks a box. Not a bad price. I asked them about a bulk order and they told me that they would get back to me with bunk prices.
Also if you check out on line you can see that people were only asking under 19 bucks or so a box. I would love to start seeing 5.7 ammo go for under 20 bucks a box. It would mean a lot more shooting time for me at the range.
Lets hope that American Eagle kicks up the production! :clap:
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All the places askingg $19/box were all vaporware. Never in stock. I need to validate this, but someone has claimed this is still Fiocchi loaded ammo just prettied up in an AE box
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Havn't seen any yet. Hopefully they will be plentiful at some point.
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I finally found some of these locally. They were $19.95 per box, so i bought every one they had. Now i can start building up my brass supply!
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Congrats on the find. Still Havn't seen any in Georgia. Looking to build my brass supply as well.
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This really excited me because a box of SS197 was running $26-$30 locally. And at under $20 per box, I dont feel quite as jaded about buying the AE
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Just a few days ago I saw this type of round on gunbroker.com, offered at $20 a box for a a 500 round case. I checked yesterday, all gone. I emailed the broker and he told me he'll have more in a few weeks or so.
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Cabellas has it in stock for 19.99.
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http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting ... t104372280Cwc wrote:Cabellas has it in stock for 19.99.
If you search for 5.7x28, it only pulls up SS197
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Just bought some this am. Search under handgun ammo.
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Now I might be making this up in my head, and I cant verify this right now because I dont have any ammo with me while Im out of town. But doesnt Fiocci make the blue box ammo for the 5.7?
I was on Federal's website today and noticed that they had the blue box listed there. Is Fiocci owned by Federal?
http://www.federalpremium.com/resources/fnh_usa.aspx
I was on Federal's website today and noticed that they had the blue box listed there. Is Fiocci owned by Federal?
http://www.federalpremium.com/resources/fnh_usa.aspx
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Bottom of my blue box 197 says "Located in the United States by Fiocchi, USA"
From http://www.fiocchiusa.com/foa/CMS/Aboutus.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Fiocchi of America is one of the international divisions wholly owned by Fiocchi Munizion"
The way I read it, Fiocchi is not owned by anyone other than Fiocchi.
The link you provided says
From http://www.fiocchiusa.com/foa/CMS/Aboutus.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Fiocchi of America is one of the international divisions wholly owned by Fiocchi Munizion"
The way I read it, Fiocchi is not owned by anyone other than Fiocchi.
The link you provided says
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Federal Distributes FN ammo..
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Well, if I were literate..... I might have noticed that :ponder:Rapier1772 wrote:Distributed does not mean made by
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I just realized that this will be the first, IIRC, mass produced 5.7x28mm round that does not have a MIL or GOV designation.
So now when we mention it, I guess we'll call it AE FMJ?
So now when we mention it, I guess we'll call it AE FMJ?
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The cardboard case says TMJ, but the actual boxes of 50 rounds say FMJ. But the actual projectiles ARE TMJ, right?Mister Freeze wrote:TMJ
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Yes. The base is also jacketed
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