Two NEW firearm models chambered for 5.7x28mm by EXCEL ARMS

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Post by Excel Arms » 26 Oct 2010, 08:48

EXCEL ARMS is proud to introduce four New firearms chambered for the popular 5.7x28mm. First in our "X series" with Tactical AR styling and machined from solid aluminum
Models X-5.7R (Rifle) and X-5.7P (pistol)

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Now also available in our already popular "ACCELERATOR SERIES" Models MR-5.7 (Rifle) MP-5.7 (Pistol)

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All of the specs and more pictures will be on http://www.EXCELARMS.com in a few days.

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Post by f3rr37 » 26 Oct 2010, 09:33

satellitedr3ams wrote:Sponsor?
We've contacted them.

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Post by jmz5 » 26 Oct 2010, 09:38

I have contacted them, and I am very excited to see more firearms chambered in 5.7.
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Post by txsccc » 26 Oct 2010, 09:55

Great looking rifle and pistol. My only qualm is the very limited mag capacity. I can see where patent issues would come into play over the p90 type top loading magazine though, so I understand.

I'm really glad more firearms are being made in 5.7x28. The more the better. I have hopes that this cartridge will become a lot more popular so that the price of ammo will go down and more manufacturers will start making it.

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Post by buckett » 26 Oct 2010, 10:07

Those look pretty sweet, I'd definitely be interested if the price is right. And let's see a new sponsor!
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Post by panzermk2 » 26 Oct 2010, 10:24

No reason why the AR versions could not use the FsM mag.
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Post by jmz5 » 26 Oct 2010, 11:25

I don't understand why they would want it to use fsn mags, if they make their own proprietary mag, they make more money selling mags. :)
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Post by txsccc » 26 Oct 2010, 11:43

True on the mags; in my humble opinion, not considering money to be made off mags, the 50 round top loading mag is a very efficient and compact design already. I'd really like to see the reliability, durability, and accuracy of these new rifles when the tests are run. An upper utilizing a AR-15 lower would by far be ideal. Price is a huge factor as always as well. It seems the $1700-$2000 P90 is suffering badly right now; I think that may have been caused in part by the AR57 since one can be built for half the price of a P90 and it has cheaper/easier to find/replace parts--who knows!

Like I said, the more 5.7 guns made, the better!!! What we need now is another ammunition manufacturer making 5.7 ammo. Perhaps if there were a proliferation of 5.7 eating rifles and pistols, then there would be a decent market for some ammo manufacturers to get into. This is my hope at least.

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Post by panzermk2 » 26 Oct 2010, 11:43

jmz5 wrote:I don't understand why they would want it to use fsn mags, if they make their own proprietary mag, they make more money selling mags. :)

Because 9 round mags will be a no starter with this crowed and will hurt them in sales.
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Post by srt-4_jon » 26 Oct 2010, 11:47

I REALLY like that pistol. If it is priced any where near your 22LR version, count me in for one.

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Post by flyingirish04 » 26 Oct 2010, 12:12

panzermk2 wrote:
jmz5 wrote:I don't understand why they would want it to use fsn mags, if they make their own proprietary mag, they make more money selling mags. :)

Because 9 round mags will be a no starter with this crowed and will hurt them in sales.

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Post by PainKillaX » 26 Oct 2010, 12:12

WOW. I am super excited.

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Post by panzermk2 » 26 Oct 2010, 12:16

I am looking foreword to side by side testing of the pistols with the vids put up on youtube. Same platforms so it will be great to finally be able to deal a nice mouth full of STFU to all the "It's only a 22mag" crowd.
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Post by Mister Freeze » 26 Oct 2010, 12:26

panzermk2 wrote:No reason why the AR versions could not use the FsM mag.
A companion 5.7 carbine using an FsN mag would be awesome, and I'd definitely buy one. A 5.7 upper to an AR lower using the FsN mag would replace 2 of my long guns. However, from my investigating into such an animal, the feed angle of the FsN mag makes it a poor choice for a rifle unless fed thru the pistol grip like the HiPoints.

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Post by flyingirish04 » 26 Oct 2010, 12:39

What is the price tag on these? Looking forward to seeing the specs on your site soon.
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Post by Excel Arms » 26 Oct 2010, 12:59

THANKS FOR ALL THE INTREST!!

EXCEL ARMS will be introducing the new products at the 2010 NASGW show next week..

The X SERIES line magazines have a capacity of 25 Rounds or a 10 Round.
X-5.7P Retail is $715.00 (BASIC)
X-5.7R Retail is $795.00 (BASIC)

ACCELERATOR line has a 9 round capacity do to fitting this cal. into a existing format.
MP-5.7 Retail is $585.00 (BASIC)
MR-5.7 Retail is $640.00 (BASIC)

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Post by blueorison » 26 Oct 2010, 13:02

Your prices are much too reasonable. Please don't fix this problem.

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Post by ynoty3k » 26 Oct 2010, 13:41

Looks very impressive. Glad to see someone making a gun platform in 5.7 beside FN It should be pretty interesting to see the accuracy rating of these.

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Post by Jessico » 26 Oct 2010, 13:49

Color me interested, I like both of the rifles :D

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Post by txsccc » 26 Oct 2010, 15:48

Good price point!--looks like you may just get a good foot in the door on the 5.7 market! =) I built my AR57 for $850 for basics not including the magpul BUIS, rail covers, optics, etc.

So there's a definite price advantage in comparison. Still a capacity issue. Sure 50 rounds are not necessarily "Needed", but the AR57 sold so well because of the novelty of the top loading 50 round magazine since people "want" it. "Want"= the majority of demand--- Need does not necessarily=Want, but Want is always >Need in the market.

Ever consider experimenting with quad-stack mags? That might be a "cool factor" that would increase sales. I definitely would want at least 30 round mags--I love going hog/coyote hunting with a 50 round mag and not having to reload the entire day! I have yet to need more than 30 for a day--usually 30 is the standard.

On a much more practical level, I would definitely like to see a stand alone upper that can use a standard AR15 lower and either a magwell block for this mag type, or a new style of magazine that fits the regular AR-15 magwell.

I like how a fluted heavy SS barrel was used on the Accelerator though. Overall, I'm impressed. Testing is the final step--if everything checks out with reliability and durability, I may just have to get one of those myself at that price.

I'm guessing that price includes the iron sights? or not?

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Post by ddouglas » 26 Oct 2010, 17:52

Price is right. Are the uppers the same?

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Post by buckett » 26 Oct 2010, 21:46

I definitely like that price. I'm really excited about this to come out. You'd have to count me in for one.
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Post by Esteves » 26 Oct 2010, 22:01

It's nice to see a slew of new options.
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Post by sabotteur » 27 Oct 2010, 01:50

Wow, I'm liking the pricing on these.

Please keep us posted when you start shipping these to distributers. I'll start putting a bug in Ron Shirk's ear that we'll be wanting some of these.

Great job guys.

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Post by srt-4_jon » 27 Oct 2010, 05:18

Need any testers?

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Post by fatherfoof » 27 Oct 2010, 06:38

I suspect they'll rather rapidly dominate the market with the price structure.
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Post by freelienr » 27 Oct 2010, 07:23

so tacticool it hurts, but i still like them

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Post by Excel Arms » 27 Oct 2010, 11:35

Again thanks for all the interest!

We updated our website this morning under the new products category.
there is a downloadable tech sheet also available.

Some of you have asked if the uppers are interchangeable.
The X series models are not built like a AR where you can change them out.

I have been in contact an we are getting all the info on becoming a sponsor of this website

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Post by srt-4_jon » 27 Oct 2010, 11:46

Any chrony data out of the pistols? Any chance they can be offered threade from the factory?

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Post by PainKillaX » 28 Oct 2010, 10:33

Can we see some videos? :D

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Post by Bones » 30 Oct 2010, 13:51

Wow good Prices! You guys have done some hard work. :clap: Congrats to you all! Do you have any you tube video up on the firearms yet? I would love to see those guys in action :guns:

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Post by PainKillaX » 30 Oct 2010, 14:09

I was wondering, what sort of pressures can these guns handle in comparison to FsN/PS90/AR57/TC? I'd be very interested in seeing any data, and I'm sure our handloaders would be as well.

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Post by VeTTeMaNC486 » 01 Nov 2010, 07:54

Wow, very cool. Hopefully this will get the 5.7 a little more main stream.
What is the twist rate on the barrel? I assume 1 in 9.
I was planning on getting a keltec pmr30 but might just have to get one of those MP5-7 pistols instead. Or both. :laugh:

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Videos will be posted soon.. Yes the barrel twist is 1 in 9..

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Post by truehuntersupply » 02 Nov 2010, 20:25

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :agree: :agree: WOOOOW!!!! I want one I will be placing an order for one. Plus the price is right.

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txsccc wrote:On a much more practical level, I would definitely like to see a stand alone upper that can use a standard AR15 lower and either a magwell block for this mag type, or a new style of magazine that fits the regular AR-15 magwell.
Hello guys and gals.
I am new to this forum so pardon me for revisiting this , I am very interested in the 5.7 round but have not built/purchased an AR57 upper because of the odd top loading mag method. Are there any thoughts of having a standard upper chambered in 5.7 built using the standard magwell?
I contacted a couple 5.7 manufacturers and got a reply from one, Excel Arms, they were very fast to reply (which was a suprise). Unfortunately they responded with "At this time we do not have any plans for a 5.7 upper to fit the AR platform, But you never know what will come up next! Thanks for the interest.."

Any thoughts?

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Post by User42 » 03 Nov 2010, 12:55

Yea I'm interested, but I would much prefer if if the X models used FSN mags. I have enough of those, and going directly from pistol to rifle would be awesome.
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Glad to see y'all are now forum supporters! WELCOME!

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ynoty3k wrote:Glad to see y'all are now forum supporters! WELCOME!

Now, who's gonna be the guinea pig?
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I will have one when they start production in January. :thumb:
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jmz5 wrote:I will have one when they start production in January. :thumb:
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Post by SeaHawkDriver-B » 03 Nov 2010, 21:27

There are two weapons I'd like to see chambered in the 5.7x28...

*A competitor to the HK MP7 chambered in the BETTER 5.7x28. i.e. a sub-subgun with vertical mag. Sell it as a pistol and SBR-it to get the foregrip on the front and stock. The AR-pistol that EXCEL makes doesn't seem like it fits into this category, it would need a TRUE telescoping stock and much shorter barrel and different operating system.

*A small, lightweight bolt-action rifle with heavy varmit barrel that can exploit the full potential of the round. .17hmr what?

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Post by VeTTeMaNC486 » 04 Nov 2010, 00:23

I would like a gas operated gun, that way us reloaders can use some slower powders to get some of the heavier weight bullets moving out pretty good. I would LOVE to have a barrel, bolt, and magazine for a desert eagle. I think that would be frickin sweet.

A small bolt gun would be neat too. If I could get one close the size/weight of my .17hmr savage I would probably sell the .17hmr :laugh: . (Lies, I would never sell a gun :D )

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Post by buckett » 04 Nov 2010, 07:41

I'm thinking an X-5.7R is in my near future. Great looking gun, and I'm still trying to save up to get myself into the 5.7...
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VeTTeMaNC486 wrote: A small bolt gun would be neat too. If I could get one close the size/weight of my .17hmr savage I would probably sell the .17hmr :laugh: . (Lies, I would never sell a gun :D )

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Post by Vibe » 05 Nov 2010, 10:23

I like the looks of these, but I would have preferred one with more of a delayed blowback action. I'm not sure that this design would handle the 17 cal wildcats on this case - like the 17 Velociraptor.

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Excel Arms wrote:THANKS FOR ALL THE INTREST!!

EXCEL ARMS will be introducing the new products at the 2010 NASGW show next week..

The X SERIES line magazines have a capacity of 25 Rounds or a 10 Round.
X-5.7P Retail is $715.00 (BASIC)
X-5.7R Retail is $795.00 (BASIC)

ACCELERATOR line has a 9 round capacity do to fitting this cal. into a existing format.
MP-5.7 Retail is $585.00 (BASIC)
MR-5.7 Retail is $640.00 (BASIC)
Are the magazines for the X-5.7R and P versions available for sale at this time? If so, who would I contact? It's good to see another 5.7 rifle and pistol manufacturer.

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Post by walter37 » 08 Nov 2010, 07:07

I already have an Accelerator Rifle chambered in .22 WMR can i convert it to the 5.7x28mm and roughly how much would it cost if it were possible ? I fear that the magazine well on the black polymer lower of my current .22WMR Accelerator rifle is to narrow to accommodate the New 5.7x28mm magazine.

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Post by panzermk2 » 08 Nov 2010, 09:53

Well I talked to Richard today.

A nice cross section of EA ammo is on the way for testing.
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We have built a new magazine for our ACCELERATOR SERIES 5.7x28mm line, Along with making all the necessary changes to accommodate a centerfire round. It would not be feasible to convert the MR-22 to the MR-5.7

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Post by wahlspyder » 10 Nov 2010, 09:16

Should get my Excel MP-17 Friday and if it shoots as well as people say, I will be standing in line for an MP-5.7 when they are available. All the information I can get says these things are tack drivers in .17 HMR. If so, I'll be looking forward to the extra zip of the 5.7 as well as the ability to reload.

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Excel Arms wrote:We have built a new magazine for our ACCELERATOR SERIES 5.7x28mm line, Along with making all the necessary changes to accommodate a centerfire round. It would not be feasible to convert the MR-22 to the MR-5.7

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Thanks for the info about the MR-22 converison idea i agree it wouldn't be very practical. About the Model X-5.7R will it have some type of bull barrel or possibly a chrome lined barrel ?

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The X Series have a barrel dia. of .625 and our ACCELERATOR'S have a barrel dia. of .875
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Excel Arms wrote:The X Series have a barrel dia. of .625 and our ACCELERATOR'S have a barrel dia. of .875
Hello again thankyou for the quick reply. When will the MR-5.7 be available to the general public for sale i am very interested in purchasing the MR-5.7 rifle as soon as possible thanks.

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Post by darksidemxer » 16 Nov 2010, 11:43

When do these come out lol I need a new varmint rifle

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Post by darksidemxer » 16 Nov 2010, 12:02

I just thought of this when my fiancee said she wants the mr rifle is 17, are u going to offer a conversion, or make me buy 2 rifles?

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Post by Excel Arms » 17 Nov 2010, 07:50

When making all the necessary changes to accommodate a centerfire round into our MR line, It would not be feasible to convert the MR-17 to the MR-5.7..

All of our production 5.7 models will be available in January..

Thanks to all the guys that have placed orders already!

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Can't wait to get my hands on one!
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Post by fzr confused » 23 Nov 2010, 21:01

any chance of you all making a bull barrel version of the X series down the road? i really like both rifles, and would love to have the bull barrel, but higher capacity is a big factor to me. that or any chance of a higher cap mag for the accelerator?

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Post by wahlspyder » 27 Nov 2010, 13:06

Finally got a chance to try out my new Excel MP-17 (Accelerator) which is the basis for one of the new 5.7's they are coming out with - thought you guys might want to know what I thought. The pistol is very well made and heavy. I have only put about 50 rounds through so far so take all of what I say with a grain of salt. Not feeding well yet but getting better so I don't think that will be a problem once I have fired some more rounds to break everything in. As far as shooting the pistol, two words come to mind - amazing and disappointing. Accuracy potential of this pistol is amazing. I believe it has the potential to be one of the most accurate pistols and by far the most accurate semi-auto I have ever fired. The disappointing comes in relationship to the trigger. It is the roughest stiffest most awful I have ever pulled. Remember, I only have just under 50 rounds down the pipe so far and should get better, but my Kel-Tec DAO's have better triggers and they are awful. Part of the reason there are so few rounds down the pipe is because I couldn't pull that trigger anymore. Bottom line - these guns have the potential to be great, but mine is ruined by a trigger that is (thus far) atrocious. Again - remember - less than 50 rounds fired so far. Will let you all know what I find as I shoot it more.

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Post by theflow » 27 Nov 2010, 17:43

Very cool

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Post by darksidemxer » 28 Nov 2010, 19:08

Anyway to put a find out how many lbs it breaks at? I know my 10/22 breaks at 10lbs and that's too heavy for mme to wanna ttry any accuracy shooting

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Post by wahlspyder » 29 Nov 2010, 03:04

Wish I had a scale to try it. Took it out yesterday to try to get some more rounds through and quit from hand fatigue after 1 magazine.

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Post by panzermk2 » 29 Nov 2010, 15:26

wahlspyder wrote:Wish I had a scale to try it. Took it out yesterday to try to get some more rounds through and quit from hand fatigue after 1 magazine.

Interesting maybe EA should look into trigger on the Excel system like we do on the FsN. These are all early production guns though and that might have something to do with it. Also takes at least 300 rounds to break a gun in it might/should get better.
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wahlspyder,

If you would like for us to take a look at your trigger we can get you a RA number for return shipment.. Normally there is not an issue with the trigger pull, It should be around 4 to 5 lbs..

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Well there you go.
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Post by fzr confused » 29 Nov 2010, 19:34

4-5lb trigger should be just fine for most people :)....of course there are always people that like to tweak it and make it even better though ;)

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Post by wahlspyder » 30 Nov 2010, 02:40

Well, Its nowhere near 4-5 lbs, but I haven't gotten through the recommended break-in either. Sounds like one way or another I'm going to have a good shooter though whether the trigger loosens up on its own or the good people at Excel take care of it.

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Post by jmz5 » 08 Dec 2010, 13:31

Any updates on the new models? I am anxious. :D
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Hello we are finishing up some magazine tooling on the new models.. Still January seems to be the month of production availability!

We did have a great response to the new 5.7 line at our NASGW show last month, And our wholesalers already have placed orders for them. We will be attending ELLETT's and CAMFOUR's dealer shows next month, and invite anyone that is attending these shows to come by our booth and say Hi and view our new products!


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Can't wait to get my hands on one of these!!
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Excel Arms wrote:Hello we are finishing up some magazine tooling on the new models.. Still January seems to be the month of production availability!

We did have a great response to the new 5.7 line at our NASGW show last month, And our wholesalers already have placed orders for them. We will be attending ELLETT's and CAMFOUR's dealer shows next month, and invite anyone that is attending these shows to come by our booth and say Hi and view our new products!


Thanks to Elite Ammunition for sending some of their ammo! Cant wait to see how it performs in our line.. :guns:
Well, they'll perform SUPER. But when you send EA (and me) some guns, then we can test them for you and when EA comes out with their tuned loads for the bbl length....

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Post by wahlspyder » 29 Jan 2011, 14:22

Update on Excel arms accelerator (.17HMR version)

Had reported on early heavy trigger and jamming from top half of the magazine. Happy to say that after firing a few more break in rounds, cleaning thoroughly, and oiling trigger group with synthetic oil all is well and the pistol is every bit as accurate as i'd hoped.

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any updates on the 5.7 models?

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A CX4 type carbine that uses the standard FsN 20 round mags would be awesome. (And there are easy upgrades to make it a 30 rounder, or more.)

The AR style setup is nice too, as many are used to that platform, and can go from using a 9mm AR carbine to the 5.7x28 to keep carry rounds the same if using the FsN pistol for duty carry for example. (One of the things I love about the CX4 is the 92 mags from the pistol fit the carbine, and large capacity mags fit either as well.)

These appear to be very nice options, especially for the prices! :)

If the thumbhole stock'd setup used the FsN mags, that's it right there. 16.1" stainless fluted bull, and if I can be so bold, back up sights built into the optics mounting rail. (Peep type, under the mount, sure the sight radius is short, but they are only back up sights, and any holo type, or red dot can be mounted above it.)

It would be an awesome back up/truck weapon for duty carry.

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Adjuster wrote:A CX4 type carbine that uses the standard FsN 20 round mags would be awesome. (And there are easy upgrades to make it a 30 rounder, or more.)

The AR style setup is nice too, as many are used to that platform, and can go from using a 9mm AR carbine to the 5.7x28 to keep carry rounds the same if using the FsN pistol for duty carry for example. (One of the things I love about the CX4 is the 92 mags from the pistol fit the carbine, and large capacity mags fit either as well.)

These appear to be very nice options, especially for the prices! :)

If the thumbhole stock'd setup used the FsN mags, that's it right there. 16.1" stainless fluted bull, and if I can be so bold, back up sights built into the optics mounting rail. (Peep type, under the mount, sure the sight radius is short, but they are only back up sights, and any holo type, or red dot can be mounted above it.)

It would be an awesome back up/truck weapon for duty carry.

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Post by Prepper » 12 May 2011, 16:27

The last I heard these were supposed to be out in January. Has anyone got one yet?
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that's what I was sort of asking in my post.... :ponder:

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Hello..

Sorry for the slow response...

Our production is progressing a little slower then planned.. Not any problems with the guns just not enough time in the day.. But I can assure everyone we will be shipping soon! :D

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Dieing to do some testing!
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Any word as to when these will be ready to ship?
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Post by sib1948 » 11 Oct 2011, 05:04

Emailed Exel this morning to see if I could get an update on when their 5.7 chambered line might be available. The pistols and rifles both look very interesting to me. I can't understand what is taking so long when there are so many interested parties. I'll let you guys know if I get any kind of response from them.

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Post by sib1948 » 11 Oct 2011, 06:30

I realize it's been over a year. Makes me wonder about management or finances in these difficult times.

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Keep in mind they where moving and setting up another shop in another state.
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Post by ynoty3k » 11 Oct 2011, 20:37

It also appears that the Accelerator rifle/pistol are gone from the lineup, just leaving the X series.

Seems their 17hmr version of the accelerator too is gone. I talked at great length with a local shop owner who said he had never gotten it to work right, sent it back and forth over 3x to no avail. He was a gunsmith himself, but didn't want to tinker too heavily being that it was still brand spankin new.

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Post by panzermk2 » 11 Oct 2011, 21:17

Rimfires are much harder to make work then centerfire.
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sib1948 wrote:Emailed Exel this morning to see if I could get an update on when their 5.7 chambered line might be available. The pistols and rifles both look very interesting to me. I can't understand what is taking so long when there are so many interested parties. I'll let you guys know if I get any kind of response from them.

Sorry for delay in reponding to your email. I will say that the ACCELERATOR SERIES is now shipping with the X-SERIES soon to follow. We started shipping models: MR-5.7 (RIFLES) first and are now shipping pistols.
jmz5 wrote:Any word as to when these will be ready to ship?


Your on the top of my list! I appreciate your patience.
ynoty3k wrote:It also appears that the Accelerator rifle/pistol are gone from the lineup, just leaving the X series.
Seems their 17hmr version of the accelerator too is gone. I talked at great length with a local shop owner who said he had never gotten it to work right, sent it back and forth over 3x to no avail. He was a gunsmith himself, but didn't want to tinker too heavily being that it was still brand spankin new.
We have not removed the ACCELERATOR SERIES from our line. We have stopped producing 17HMR models due to the inconsistent ammo. ACCELERATOR SERIES is available in 22WMR and now 5.7x28mm which is going very strong!
panzermk2 wrote:Rimfires are much harder to make work then centerfire.
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Post by mel023 » 09 Nov 2011, 02:26

Can a fixed length AR style buttstock, i.e. an A2 be fitted to an X-5.7 rifle? I'm not a big fan of the telescoping stocks and I think putting a fixed stock on this rifle would be a great idea. I might be the only one who thinks so but to each their own right?

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Yes.. A fixed or folding stock can be used.
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Post by Bear69 » 27 Mar 2012, 15:26

does anyone own one of these rifles?

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Post by Agentmoops » 22 Apr 2012, 20:50

I do "Bear", I have the accelerator chambered in 5.7x28mm, bought it a couple of months ago, haven't even gotten it through the break-in period yet and its already broken the internal bolt/buffer. In fact, have called/left messages for Excel several times without a return call. Not sure whats up with that but not very good business in my eyes. I'd be eager to speak with a representative of theirs if one of them reads this?? :-)

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Excel MP-5.7 Review
All, this is my first post here, and I would like to recount for you my success with a fine Excel Arms product, the MP-5.7. I would like to do this….I would also like to have hair, but that isn’t happening either. Let me jump right into it.

I returned from Afghanistan in early 2014, and decided I wanted to purchase a 5.7 chambered pistol. The Excel looked like a bargain, and the longer bull barrel promised an increased velocity. I shopped gunbroker, and eventually struck a deal in November for just under $600.00, including the FFL transfer and shipping.
The pistol arrived shortly after, and in December, I went to the range with my new acquisition to take the measure of the pistol. This was somewhat curtailed by the minor fact that the pistol DID NOT FIRE. Not only did this new, out of the box pistol not fire, it did not even show a primer strike in several dozen attempts. I have purchased 110 year old Colts, new pistols from Kel-Tec to Sig and have never, ever, had a turd out of the box, but I surely had one now.
I went on to the Excel website, and contacted them immediately…..nothing. I waited a month, and repeated the procedure…nothing. I called, and was trapped in the hell of endless phone message, so I wrote again, and on 21 May 2015, I received the following response:
“Hello – Sorry to hear about your trouble.

Can you check to be sure the screws, specifically the rear screw on the top of the pistol rib is snug down tight with the allen Hex wrench.
The screws can become loose and this will cause malfunctions. They need to be kept snug down tight.

If after you have checked the screws, then you can send the firearm into us to check out for you.
Your Return Authorization number is RA# XXXXX.
Ship it to our address listed below. Do not include any live rounds, but do include your magazines.
Please fill out the warranty card and send it in to activate the warranty.

Thanks.
Kathy”

While not exactly pleased with being told to repair my own firearm before sending it in, I tried it, no joy. I whipped the pistol to Excel Arms, which Fed Ex (on my dime) confirmed arrived on 29 May 2015.
Insert long pause of hearing nothing here, not even an email confirming receipt.

I wrote an email to Kathy on 01 June (no response) and a second on 10 July 2015, which stated the following:
“Second Inquiry (first un-responded) as to the status of my pistol. I am becoming....concerned.”
On 12 July 2015, I received the following reply”
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The firearm is here. I will get back to you on Monday or Tuesday to advise.
Thanks,
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Since then (it is now the early hours of 18 July 2015) I have not heard a word, through any of the vast communications options available. I have no pistol, no $600.00 and even if I received the item back tomorrow, it would be forever stained in my mind by indifferent and slipshod construction, followed by perversely bad customer service. This is a firearm, a somewhat serious product, and this bunch seems to care about neither their customers nor their reputation.

So I am posting here, and to every related discussion board I can find. Please consider my experience with the Excel Arms MP-5.7 before you purchase this shiny doorstop. The typical negative customer service experience gets related between 11 and 20 times, I am going to try to better this number, and perhaps in doing so can create pressure on Excel Arms to better their customer focus.

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Re: Two NEW firearm models chambered for 5.7x28mm by EXCEL A

Post by Grocerius Maximus » 23 Jul 2015, 18:49

I consider mine a $600.00 suppository.

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Re: Two NEW firearm models chambered for 5.7x28mm by EXCEL A

Post by wtsane1 » 24 Jul 2015, 00:26

24 July 2015.....still silent

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Re: Two NEW firearm models chambered for 5.7x28mm by EXCEL A

Post by CPTKILLER » 24 Jul 2015, 05:57

I will wait for user reviews. Then maybe?

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Re: Two NEW firearm models chambered for 5.7x28mm by EXCEL A

Post by panzermk2 » 24 Jul 2015, 08:54

I seem to be the only person who has one that functions.
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