Gun Mounted Light w/ Laser - Review/Poll -updated 7.13.10

Discuss the FN Five-seveN line of pistols and accessories.

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Which light w/ laser do you prefer?

Surefire X400
38
21%
Streamlight TLR-2
53
30%
Insight M6X
9
5%
Viridian X5L
62
35%
Sig Sauer STL 900L
12
7%
Insight X2L
2
1%
Glock GTL 21
1
1%
 
Total votes: 177

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Post by Hoss » 13 Jul 2011, 05:40

Optics Planet :lmao: had changed my shipment date a the second time to the week of July 6th and now to the first week of September.....Yes Sir!

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Post by jgreenberg01 » 13 Jul 2011, 06:27

FWIW, I started using Optics Planet but switched to OpticsBestBuy.com because their prices tend to be a tad better. They missed a shipping date one time for me and sent it 2nd day air at no charge (and without me asking for that).

I think all these transactions are kind of a snapshot in time, but I have no complaints about opticsbestbuy.com.
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Post by Hoss » 13 Jul 2011, 15:33

Thanks for the info....I called OpticsBestBuy.com they are not a distributor of Varidian products.

It appears that Optics Planet runs the sales for Varidian. I am sorry the service isn't any better. I haven't found any other options!

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Post by Nickf150fx4 » 13 Jul 2011, 19:39

Yep been there done that...after being jacked around for a few months I canceled my order and got my gen 2 X5L from my local dealer who is a buddy for $50 cheaper. It's weird optics planet seems very hit or miss because they were great with my other tac light laser I bought from them!

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Post by GONRA » 24 Jul 2011, 11:49

Looks like you 5.7x28 FN pistol shooters highly recommend the http://www.viridiangreenlaser.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; BATTERY POWERED Viridian X5L gen2 green laser / blinding flashlite combo.

GONRA was gonna get one to fool around with,
BUT just noted the
RECHARGEABLE http://www.lasermax.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Genesis green laser.
This doesn’t seem to have the blinding flashlite.
But, RECHARGEABLE sure sounds GREAT to me!

Both products use “5 mW green lasers” so
electrical power demands FOR THE LASER ONLY should be identical.

Bet knowledgeables can speculate on future / practicality of a
RECHARGEABLE laser with specs otherwise same as the highly regarded BATTERY POWERED Viridian X5L gen2 laser / blinding flashlite combo.

Another way of posing the issue would be –
would the appropriate battery system be
small / light weight enough to be practical in this application?

Wouldn’t mind waiting around for this RECHARGEABLE product to appear – IF it really seemed feasible!

Thanx in advance, Laser / Blinding Flashlite / DC Power Pack Experts!

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Post by Valorius » 01 Sep 2011, 10:03

I have a Viridian C5L on mine. Works great...

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Post by Nickf150fx4 » 04 Sep 2011, 11:08

^^ Such an awesome pic

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Post by Valorius » 08 Sep 2011, 20:54

Thanks Nick!

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Post by eVenom » 09 Sep 2011, 19:23

I think you need more mag's

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Post by Valorius » 10 Sep 2011, 19:43

Buy them for me. :)

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Post by Adjuster » 20 Sep 2011, 10:44

The CL5 has been excellent so far, no need to change the battery, and I've used the laser for about 6 hours now, and light about .5 hour. The fact it uses the very common to my other lights/lasers 123 Lithium battery is a serious plus. (Just stock 3 types of batteries in my safe, N, 123 and 2030 disk type and of course AA and AAA. :))

I picked up a Streamlight LED lamp that is amazing. It's too big for a pistol, but for a PDW or rilfe/carbine, it's just right. Holds a tight spot out to about 100 yards! Up close, on a shotgun, it's a "light" aiming device! LOL Just put the light on the target and you are good to go. They make a rechargable version, but mine uses 3, 123 batteries, and I have yet to replace them. I tend to only use the light for a few seconds at a time, as it destroys your night vision, even from the light reflected back. (I keep it in my car to look up house numbers, and such.. Just open the sun roof, or roll down the window, and you can "spotlight" the house address, or confirm what car/truck you are looking for etc.)

It has replaced my trusty Mag Light for this duty, and is 1/3 the size, if that.
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Post by SeaHawkDriver-B » 20 Sep 2011, 11:12

I'm considering the TLR-3 for a Glock 30... but I jus saw a picture of one and theres a noticable GAP between the front of the trigger guard and the light switch... not much thought put into actually making the TLR-3 fit on compact pistols obviously.

Anyone have experience with what fits well on some of the smaller pistols?

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Post by srt-4_jon » 20 Sep 2011, 12:42

SeaHawkDriver-B wrote:I'm considering the TLR-3 for a Glock 30... but I jus saw a picture of one and theres a noticable GAP between the front of the trigger guard and the light switch... not much thought put into actually making the TLR-3 fit on compact pistols obviously.

Anyone have experience with what fits well on some of the smaller pistols?
Im pretty sure it is because of the Glock rail. Because it isnt a picitinny rail, it would sit against the trigger guard because the slot on a Glock is so far forward. I have seen pictures of someone that added another slot closer to the trigger guard to fix it.

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Post by SeaHawkDriver-B » 20 Sep 2011, 13:04

Thanks Jon, Yes the Glock rail is not a Pic, but the rail width is identical to a Pic, it just doesn't have the Pic serations. I'm trying to find a picture of a G30/G29 with a Viridian CL5 on it. The Viridian website says that it fits all Glocks.

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Post by GONRA » 20 Sep 2011, 13:12

GONRA suggests a great article "Going Green" in latest (October 2011)
"The American Rifleman" magazine.
ESPECIALLY note "Sources for Green Lasers" appended.
Lists 13 vendors + internet contact info.
As out Dear Leader sez - "Lets All Go Green"!

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Post by Valorius » 27 Sep 2011, 18:29

I shot this 12 rd group at 20 yards rapid fire with my Viridian C5L, using Elite S4M:

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Post by FNForever » 08 Oct 2011, 18:59

I have only used the Streamlight TLR-2 on my Glock 20. It is a very solid setup. The light is blinding bright and focused @ under 15yds. The laser could be more powerful but serves its purpose and holds zero even under the heavy recoil of the 10mm. Great light/laser for the price. Oh and its switchable. You can have light/laser/both....always on or instantaneous.

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Post by GONRA » 12 Dec 2011, 14:29

GONRA wants to get a Viridian X5L as recommended by you experts out there
for my 5.7x28 FN pistol. http://www.OpticsPlanet.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; info specifies a CR2 battery.
Any suggestions (actual experience only please) on
a rechargable CR2 battery / charger combo?
Apparently many CR2 batteries are rechargable, but not all.
Some brands mention "one time use" or "primary" -> NOT RECHARGABLE
but other brands do not specify ANY info that applies to recharging!
Its confusing, so am seeking an
ACTUAL USER EXPERIENCE RECOMMENDATION
from you World Renouned Experts.
THANX!

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Post by Rapier1772 » 12 Dec 2011, 15:03

I've had bad luck with my X5L (Gen 1) so while I like it when it works, it's not reliable enough to keep on a weapon - even after I sent it back to the factory for repairs.

As for the battery, I only use the non-rechargeable & they last a while. I have not tried the rechargeable kind.
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Post by ChiefJohn » 18 Dec 2011, 05:53

I've had no problems with my X5L G2 and find it very easy to operate -- 6 modes of operation. When I first installed the X5L, I did not tighten the light lens down after inserting the battery -- the light/laser would not work. Checked on the Viridian Forum and found the answer -- the light lens must be snugged down (tight). Fixed the problem. The G2 uses a CR123A battery.

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Post by FNtacticalNUT » 19 Dec 2011, 13:05

The Veridian X5L has been the best light/laser combo that I have used. It has out performed any streamlight I have used. The X5L gen1 had its quirks but they were ironed out with the GEN2. I ordered a GEN 2 from BOTACH and got a GEN 1. Sent it to Veridian and they replaced it. Also if you have a GEN 1 they will swap it out even for the C5L or you can pay them the differnece from the GEN1 to GEN 2 and they will swap it out for you. They have the best no B/S customer service in the industry.

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Post by GONRA » 19 Dec 2011, 13:49

GONRA really appreciates great replys to my
Viridian X5L Gen2 questions.
Correct battery is CR123A as some mentioned and as listed in http://www.viridiangreenlaser.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; X5L Gen 2 spec sheet.
Rechargable (maybe they all are?) CR123A batteries are available with as sets with chargers.
Today Viridian came out with a Big Announcement -
"ECR" technology. Can checkitout on their website.
ECR is not available for the 5.7x28 FN pistol.
Anyway, plan to get a X5L Gen 2
and battery / charger set in 2012 .
Thanx again and Merry Xmas / Happy New Year!

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Post by fooschnickens » 19 Dec 2011, 15:01

Two GONRA posts in a week!? :D

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Post by ChiefJohn » 20 Dec 2011, 05:48

We need to energize Viridian to make an ECR holster for the 5.7 :thumb:

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Post by JoJo » 20 Dec 2011, 11:08

ChiefJohn wrote:We need to energize Viridian to make an ECR holster for the 5.7 :thumb:
I talked to Veridian.....no :wall: plans to include the FsN! :wall:

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Post by blueorison » 20 Dec 2011, 14:21

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Post by critterdoc » 23 Dec 2011, 10:38

Here is an FSN with a Viridian subcompact C5L mounted. Raven Concealment Systems offers a light/laser compatible holster for the FsN and Viridian's X5L (gen 2). Please note that as is depicted below, Raven does not currently list the Viridian C5L in their laser-light selection chart.

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Here is Raven's order form for the FsN:
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Here is the light selection menu on the order form, offering only Viridian's X5L laser-light option effective Nov 2014:
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Here is Maxpedition's 10" pistol case fit with the FsN:
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Post by FNtacticalNUT » 23 Dec 2011, 13:39

critterdoc
Thanks for the great info
hopefully they will have one for the x5l and FsN soon

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Post by Valorius » 23 Dec 2011, 22:13

I spoke to Viridian about the new ECR (or whatever they call it) circuitry. You cannot upgrde or trade in an existing C5L or X5L first or 2nd gen laser for the new one.

Armalaser and Laserlyte both have an old model trade in program. Viridian....not so much.

Which blows, because i have a C5L.

Only lasers made after Dec 2011 will have the new circuitry.

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Post by Eric T » 01 Feb 2012, 12:41

Hey ya'll I'm new here. I'm sorry if we're not supposed to dig up old threads, but I was searching for answers about Veridian X5L's and rechargeable batteries. I just ordered my 5-7, and an X5L (gen 1). Anyway the sight I found the X5L on just said it took cr2 batteries, and I have a ton of rechargeable ones as well as a couple chargers. Well I went to the Veridian site, and read that we shouldn't use rechargeable batteries in them. Does anybody know why? Oh and is there any chance someone has a pic (or link) of an OD Five-seveN with a black Gen1 X5L? ... And yes I have searched for a pic I've googled and binged it to death I just want to see it. NOW I come from a somewhat small city so I had to order everything online, and I'll have to wait up to 3 weeks for mine to get here. I wish I'd made up my mind at Christmas time, but I really wanted to hold a 5-7 before I bought it as it's going to be my main carry weapon. Anyway thanks all.

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Post by edorfox » 02 Feb 2012, 11:36

Hi Eric,

I think the reason for no rechargeables is due to the rate of power delivery. The lithium batteries can dump energy faster and essentially provide more "pressure". Here is an OD 5.7 with the newer Gen2 X5L.

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Post by Eric T » 02 Feb 2012, 13:06

Thanks for the pic and the info. Unfortunately after waiting a week for my 5-7 to be shipped I checked my status and they somehow cancelled my order. I never found the OD one I wanted. I did find what appears to be a tan color? It didn't look like the FDE. Oh and as for lasers Ya'll might disagree with me, but I decided on a X5L Gen1. I had a gen 2 in my order, but while searching for another one I saw pics of the Gen one. I prefer the light and laser centered and sunk back like that + after searching for ever online I found a used one for a little more than half the price of the Gen 2 I had ordered. Ohh and I guess I'll go ahead and order a couple packs of batteries instead of experimenting with my rechargeables.


So does anybody know of a fourth frame color? Kind of tan color. Maybe it is a FDE just a bad picture under some certain light I don't know, but I can't wait to see it in person.

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Post by NewGunNut » 13 Mar 2012, 18:17

I'm planning on buying a Surfire X400 but would also like to get the DG grip switch assembly for it. Surefire doesnt make and currently has no plan to make one specifically for the five-seven but they recommended using one for a gun they do support that has a similar trigger guard profile. Does anybody know if any of the following guns have such a profile?

Glock 17, 17L, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 31, 32, 34, 35, Smith & Wesson M&P, Sig Sauer P220R, P226R, P229R, HK USP Compact or fullsize 40/45, Beretta 92FS/96FS, 96 Vertek, Standard 1911, Standard 1911, Kimber TLE, Springfield XD Standard Frame.

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Post by Valorius » 09 Apr 2012, 06:35

Some pix of my Viridian C5L mounted to my FsN w/threaded barrel. I HIGHLY recommend this unit, especially the new ones which have auto on circuitry:

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Holster for FsN w/Viridian C5L from Elite:

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Post by Raveren » 23 Apr 2012, 17:06

I like this one:

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Post by Rapier1772 » 23 Apr 2012, 17:22

What is it? I don't see any ID markings on it.
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Post by Raveren » 23 Apr 2012, 19:58

Rapier1772 wrote:What is it? I don't see any ID markings on it.
It's a plastic piece of junk I pulled off an airsoft gun.

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Post by Burt Gummer » 19 Sep 2012, 10:49

A China slave made this x400 clone. $125.00. Have a real one also, the only difference is the clone has a brighter light (250 lumen).

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Post by blueorison » 19 Sep 2012, 10:55

Raveren wrote:
Rapier1772 wrote:What is it? I don't see any ID markings on it.
It's a plastic piece of junk I pulled off an airsoft gun.

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This was pretty good.

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Post by blueorison » 27 Sep 2012, 08:41

You can add another to the poll.

Laserlyte just came out with this low profile utilitarian-looking light.

It's isn't cool-looking, which is a reason why I think the majority of people voted for the Viridian.

http://www.laserlyte.com/products/fsl-3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It can mount to pic. rails, so it can go on your carbine or FsN.

What I'm pretty intrigued about is that the Laserlyte original laser they sold as their flagship is no longer listed on their page, and I can't find it, anywhere on their site. I never really liked it.

This latest one, if it can hold up to recoil from the FsN, etc. might be a good addition to your AR.
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Post by PainKillaX » 27 Sep 2012, 10:18

blueorison wrote:You can add another to the poll.

Laserlyte just came out with this low profile utilitarian-looking light.

It's isn't cool-looking, which is a reason why I think the majority of people voted for the Viridian.

http://www.laserlyte.com/products/fsl-3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It can mount to pic. rails, so it can go on your carbine or FsN.

What I'm pretty intrigued about is that the Laserlyte original laser they sold as their flagship is no longer listed on their page, and I can't find it, anywhere on their site. I never really liked it.

This latest one, if it can hold up to recoil from the FsN, etc. might be a good addition to your AR.
Their ad even shows it mounted on both and AR and the FsN :)

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Post by blueorison » 28 Sep 2012, 14:37

Pretty sure this is the same "tactical laser"

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And yet they can't spell "incredibly".

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Post by Valorius » 10 Oct 2012, 07:14

blueorison wrote:You can add another to the poll.

Laserlyte just came out with this low profile utilitarian-looking light.

It's isn't cool-looking, which is a reason why I think the majority of people voted for the Viridian.

http://www.laserlyte.com/products/fsl-3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It can mount to pic. rails, so it can go on your carbine or FsN.

What I'm pretty intrigued about is that the Laserlyte original laser they sold as their flagship is no longer listed on their page, and I can't find it, anywhere on their site. I never really liked it.

This latest one, if it can hold up to recoil from the FsN, etc. might be a good addition to your AR.
I had that model, it's ok, but the activation buttons are way too small for it to have any real world "tactical" use on a defensive weapon. I gave it to my dad for plinking.

It is not even remotely close to being in the same range as the Viridian. I think the viridian does so well because it A) Looks cool, B) works really good, holds zero well, and has nice big buttons, and C) it has a really bright strobe light built into it as well. (I also own a Viridian C5L).

I've used most major lasers on the market today, and have owned several on several different platforms. Crimson Trace and Viridian are a cut above the rest IMO.

The Armalaser SR2-635 is a better option in the same price range. I have one of those too. It's even smaller, and is a much brighter 635nm dot, whereas the laserlyte is a 650nm unit (unless they've recently updated it).

Here's a pic of the Laserlyte unit on my custom railed HK P7:

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Re: Gun Mounted Light w/ Laser - Review/Poll -updated 7.13.

Post by blueorison » 10 Oct 2012, 10:18

:thumb: Thanks for sharing and your input!
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Re: Gun Mounted Light w/ Laser - Review/Poll -updated 7.13.

Post by 500SWfan » 16 May 2014, 17:28

I finally joined the Five-seveN club and bought a MKII to go with my PS90. You can add the Crimson Trace Railmaster Pro to the list. (http://www.crimsontrace.com/products/ty ... master-pro" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) It mounts securely to the FsN. Now I just need to go sight it in. :D

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Re: Gun Mounted Light w/ Laser - Review/Poll -updated 7.13.

Post by karbuv » 16 Nov 2014, 09:17

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Re: Gun Mounted Light w/ Laser - Review/Poll -updated 7.13.

Post by Middian » 17 Nov 2014, 17:46

Looks great mounted.

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Re: Gun Mounted Light w/ Laser - Review/Poll -updated 7.13.

Post by Ftg » 02 Sep 2015, 20:23

Just a shout out. The veridian x5l works fine for me (picky). I would like to say that anthony's leather makes the best holster in the world for this combo. This is not only a gentleman; he's an artist with gun leather. Think the extra months of waiting was well worth it (he needs more people). He'll do anything to make the customer happy. Feel I owe him that much; for the time on this new pattern. I told him my endorsement would be a curse over a blessing. Sorry, spell check is out; and peace.

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Re: Gun Mounted Light w/ Laser - Review/Poll -updated 7.13.

Post by Ftg » 02 Sep 2015, 20:27

Also, my x5l looks nothing like that pic; so I'm scatchcing my head. Also, optics planet lies allot; and they reporty directly to the fed so beware./

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