Removing the mag "safety"?

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Re: Removing the mag "safety"?

Post by f3rr37 » 11 Jan 2010, 22:38

First of all, there is no striker. This is a hammer operated pistol. Second of all, I don't know how doing this mod might prevent the hammer from falling.

I did have an issue once when I removed the hammer group and when I put it back in a spring wasn't set correctly and the hammer wouldn't fall because something wasn't engaging. But I don't think that moving the bar is going to cause something like this... I might be wrong though, it is has been a while since I've looked at the internals closely.

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Re: Removing the mag "safety"?

Post by PainKillaX » 11 Jan 2010, 22:49

Okay thanks, I pulled that directly from the guide, wanted to clear it up.

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Re: Removing the mag "safety"?

Post by f3rr37 » 12 Jan 2010, 09:16

It was just my personal opinion and observations based on my memory of the workings of the pistol, so take it with a grain of salt :)

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Re: Removing the mag "safety"?

Post by VITALIY » 12 Jan 2010, 10:59

PainKillaX wrote:I just disassembled mine to take a look at this again. I know exactly where and how to do what's shown on Calguns but I noticed this--

"cycle the slide; engage the safety and pull the trigger - if your striker falls at this point, something was done wrong and you should have your pistol checked by a professional gunsmith immediately"

What would make this happen? If it did, would it be possible to reverse without a gunsmith? I would like to do this to my pistol but I don't want to chance something going wrong, as I do not have the money for a gunsmith and I imagine some people would be upset if I broke my new thousand dollar pistol :?:
Make sure that the hammer is "cocked" before you put the harmer group back on the frame, that will help to keep the sear lever in proper alignment, also make sure that the sear spring is pressed firm against the back of the frame.
That should save you a trip to gunsmith.
Hope that would help you.

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Re: Removing the mag "safety"?

Post by High-Gear » 18 Jan 2010, 22:26

I figured out the problem with the mag not seating!

I did the mod incorrectly the first time, and had this problem.

If you pried up the spring bar and moved the transfer bar up so the hook on the end of the transfer bar rides on top of the spring bar...you did it wrong. While this does provide upward pressure on the transfer bar and defeats the magazine safety, the magazines will not seat this way. Instead you have to pry the spring bar out far enough to lift it past the small square platic tab, and ride on top of the square tab. This way the spring bar pushes up against the main body of the transfer bar, not against the hook on the end of it. It will now be out of the way and magazines will seat. The gun works perfectly.

I don't notice a difference in the trigger pull, as the magazine would be pusing up on it in the original configuration anyway. Does this make sense?
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Re: Removing the mag "safety"?

Post by f3rr37 » 18 Jan 2010, 22:27

Makes sense to me.

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Re: Removing the mag "safety"?

Post by VITALIY » 19 Jan 2010, 02:39

Yep, it does. Removal of the mag safety is only making the trigger pull smoother(partialy), not lighter.

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Re: Removing the mag "safety"?

Post by VITALIY » 19 Jan 2010, 08:25

If you smooth out a firing pin safety/fp safety lifter contact, than you should see more tangible improovement. And you can get away with just taking the slide of the frame. It won't help over all trg. weight, but, the scretchy take up should improove.
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Re: Removing the mag "safety"?

Post by glock10mmman » 23 Jan 2010, 01:18

Wow that was easy!!!!

I found it eaiser to pry and move the bar from the bottom of the mag well instead from the top.
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Re: Removing the mag "safety"?

Post by acmeraptor » 01 Apr 2010, 17:00

Thanks for the good info everyone. I'm anxious to make this mod when I get the right tools.. I fricken hate the "mag safety".

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Re: Removing the mag "safety"?

Post by acmeraptor » 02 Apr 2010, 17:44

Yep, worked like a charm. Thanks again.

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Disabling the magazine disconnect safety?

Post by 57360 » 12 Nov 2010, 17:26

I hate these things, is it possible to disable it on a Five Seven?

Preferably in a reversible manner.


I looked up “Magazine safety”, and “magazine disconnect” “magazine disconnecter” and had no hits.

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Re: Disabling the magazine disconnect safety?

Post by jgreenberg01 » 12 Nov 2010, 17:39

57360 wrote:I hate these things, is it possible to disable it on a Five Seven?

Preferably in a reversible manner.


I looked up “Magazine safety”, and “magazine disconnect” “magazine disconnecter” and had no hits.
You didn't look hard enough...

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Re: Disabling the magazine disconnect safety?

Post by Buffman » 12 Nov 2010, 22:04

You can actually take the whole bar out according to one write up

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Re: Disabling the magazine disconnect safety?

Post by bobapunk » 13 Nov 2010, 13:25

It takes about 10 seconds to disable it, and it is totally reversible.
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Re: Disabling the magazine disconnect safety?

Post by 57360 » 13 Nov 2010, 14:20

jgreenberg01 wrote:
57360 wrote:I hate these things, is it possible to disable it on a Five Seven?

Preferably in a reversible manner.


I looked up “Magazine safety”, and “magazine disconnect” “magazine disconnecter” and had no hits.
You didn't look hard enough...

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=5972&p=88304&hilit ... ety#p88304" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It’s because I only searched titles only. :facepalm:

thanks for the link. :D
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Re: Disabling the magazine disconnect safety?

Post by Buffman » 13 Nov 2010, 14:21

satellitedr3ams wrote:
Buffman wrote:You can actually take the whole bar out according to one write up
this would void the warranty.

so is doing a whole bunch of other stuff. Does FNH have a camera in the gun, that knows you removed it? You can easily take it out, and if the need ever arises, put it back in.

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Re: Disabling the magazine disconnect safety?

Post by fzr confused » 13 Nov 2010, 20:18

i sent my FsN back in and after i dropped it off at UPS remembered i didnt undo it and put it back the way it was...when FsN sent it back, they "fixed" it and didnt say a word.

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Re: Disabling the magazine disconnect safety?

Post by howlincollins » 28 Feb 2011, 01:03

First post and wow all i can say is thanks. I just moved up from a bersa thunder 9uc which does not have a mag safety and this guide was great. As the previous poster stated it took less time to disengage than to read the walk-through. Took about 2 secs and works perfectly. Thanks for the info!

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Re: Disabling the magazine disconnect safety?

Post by Davidlee » 08 Mar 2011, 18:28

I have a question and would like to understand what a magazine diconnect saftey is and why would you disable it.

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