FsN and the Stopping Power stigma

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Re: FsN and the Stopping Power stigma

Post by blueorison » 10 Apr 2011, 23:16

Adjuster wrote: What I find amusing is often the guys who say it all falls to caliber and bullet weight, are often the ones with poor shot groups, and really need to train the most to actually use what they have.
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Re: FsN and the Stopping Power stigma

Post by EARS » 12 Apr 2011, 05:25

I've had several people question the 5.7 round and why I carry the USG as my main weapon of choice for work and personal protection. I don't agree with them. I give them some of the facts behind the EA ammo and the standard factory ammo. If that doesn't change their opinion, I just ask them to step down to the target line. We'll see if this ammo is good or so non-effective. So far, not one taker. They also don't continue to argue.

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Re: FsN and the Stopping Power stigma

Post by maxbid » 12 Apr 2011, 09:31

I agree whole-heartedly about stopping power is all about shot placement and not the caliber.
Point being that Grizzly bears have been killed with a .22 lr and a .308 did not stop drugged taliban.

So, I like the point made about being able to hit your target when in a situation where your adrenalin is pumping and how accurate you can shoot will matter. That is why my night stand gun is not my Sig p220 8 shot .45acp but my Glock 17 with it's 19 round mag.

I just purchased a FnS this past weekend and have a 30 round (20 + mag extension) in it. I've put my extra M6 laser/light on it and it will now be my night stand gun. I know that I'm going to miss hitting the BG multiple times and want as many rounds as I can get.

This always reminds me of the true story of Officer Ross Jessop stopping a drunk driver. It's all captured on his patrol car's dash cam. The driver pulls out a .41mag and the first pull of the trigger you can hear it go "click" and followup trigger pull is the very loud sound of a .41 mag going off in the officers face. Officer Jessop says "Oh Sh*t" and unloads his Glock 22 (.40 S&W with 14 round mag) into the fleeing BG in his truck.
Guess how many rounds actually hit the truck?

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Re: FsN and the Stopping Power stigma

Post by Ospy » 12 Apr 2011, 09:40

Darn. And my bedside gun IS my Sig P220. :)
Perhaps I should load up a second magazine. Or, I suppose I could just throw my FsN in the nightstand. So many choices. Either way, BG Beware!
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Re: FsN and the Stopping Power stigma

Post by blueorison » 12 Apr 2011, 18:05

All it takes is practice and a bit of skill, and you can unload a full 20 rounds of 5.7x28mm into any bad guy's A-zone COM measuring 9x14 in his chest from 20 feet and under.

I always hear people talk about what gear what gun what caliber.

It's all pointless. Speaking about it out loud online and to themselves is their only empty reassurance. When the time comes, they are SOL and will be killed.

Take our members such as DW (SWE) and B. (CencalSplicer). They went out and signed up for Frontsite classes. This is a very reputable academy that I myself consider top of the list to enter. No, a Magpul Carbine class isn't on the top, because it's not very applicable, unless you think you can carry your carbine around and are MIL/have access to land and hunt/LE (I never think I know enough, and would still take the opportunity any day to learn more). Even then they do not have it on body.

There is what some think is "cool" etc. and accepted in the "firearms community". I wonder how many of these people in the "community" should follow our fellow friends, DW, B, and others like Ryker. Perhaps much too many. Initiative.
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Re: FsN and the Stopping Power stigma

Post by Bones » 12 Apr 2011, 18:08

I carry an AT-4 between my front seats :p

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Re: FsN and the Stopping Power stigma

Post by blueorison » 12 Apr 2011, 18:43

I actually stopped and pondered the possibility of this, but only because you're Bones :evil:
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Re: FsN and the Stopping Power stigma

Post by jgreenberg01 » 12 Apr 2011, 19:21

Bones wrote:I carry an AT-4 between my front seats :p
I actually have one...

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Re: FsN and the Stopping Power stigma

Post by blueorison » 12 Apr 2011, 19:59

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Did you take the barcode off of your FsN, yet? :lmao:

Screw the AT4 I'll take the shooter.
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Re: FsN and the Stopping Power stigma

Post by Rapier1772 » 12 Apr 2011, 21:01

blueorison wrote:
jgreenberg01 wrote:
Bones wrote:I carry an AT-4 between my front seats :p
I actually have one...
Did you take the barcode off of your FsN, yet? :lmao:
AT-4 still has the barcode on it
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Re: FsN and the Stopping Power stigma

Post by f3rr37 » 12 Apr 2011, 22:18

I think we've beaten the dead horse enough here, and we're getting off topic now.

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